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Re: Crome Shader [Re: Nadester] #40053
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What are the terms of use? That's def. the same thing as the one from Halo... I'm sure Bungie wouldn't be too pleased if people were using it in commercial projects. (Not to scold you, the use of it here is fine. Just in general.)



Nadester, don't be so obtuse, we aren't showing off the model and you know it. He just picked it as a mesh for the crome shader. It's jsut an example. There are no terms of use for the banshee you CAN't use it, it's from Halo. It's a crome shader, the terms of use are free. No model for you!


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Re: Crome Shader [Re: Metal_Thrasher] #40054
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Hey how come the EXE won't work? Do I have to recompile or something? It keeps saying script modified when I click on the EXE. Just wanted to test your shader :P Any suggestions please?

Re: Crome Shader [Re: Tozzy] #40055
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DragonXDark, please read my post more carefully. First off, I'm not saying that you can't use it.

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(Not to scold you, the use of it here is fine. Just in general.)



Secondly, there are terms of use. He must have gotten it from somewhere, which he claimed to be conitec. Chances are, either you can use it noncommercially, or not at all. But if Conitec is distributing it, they would most def tell you something - otherwise we'd have people using it in games they intend to sell.

And according to you,

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There are no terms of use for the banshee you CAN't use it, it's from Halo.



That would mean you can't use it either, figuritively speaking.

Re: Crome Shader [Re: Nadester] #40056
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Take a look at this Nadester. Acknex Unlimited click on the models button.

At the very top there is a Battle Rifle from Halo2 with a free license.

If you scroll down a bit you will see a Doom3 pack.
The license is set to free. I have been having to tell many people that they can't use them in their games that they intend to sell.

Scroll down some more. There is a Halo pack with a Limmited license.
And also farther down the list there is a Warthog for Halo with a Free license.

There are also a bunch of other models from other games that have a "free" license on Acknex Unlimited.

Pretty confusing to all of these people if you ask me.
I think that we should have all models from other games license changed to "Limited" on Acknex Unlimited.

Re: Crome Shader [Re: Nadester] #40057
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DragonXDark, please read my post more carefully. First off, I'm not saying that you can't use it.

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(Not to scold you, the use of it here is fine. Just in general.)



Secondly, there are terms of use. He must have gotten it from somewhere, which he claimed to be conitec. Chances are, either you can use it noncommercially, or not at all. But if Conitec is distributing it, they would most def tell you something - otherwise we'd have people using it in games they intend to sell.

And according to you,

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There are no terms of use for the banshee you CAN't use it, it's from Halo.



That would mean you can't use it either, figuritively speaking.



What I'm saying is regaurdless of the lisence the guy who made the model can't have you use it in commercial circumstances. You of course can use it non-commercialy. Otherwise there is no use for it as it's property of Bungy and Microsoft.


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Re: Crome Shader [Re: Metal_Thrasher] #40058
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Of course I know that - my point was that it should have some sort of disclaimer with it, in which it does not. As HSB stated, many of the models on Acknex Unlimited that are from other games are just listed as "free", without any refference to their actual owners. Someone who didn't recognize them, and used them, could get into a lot of trouble.


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Re: Crome Shader [Re: Tozzy] #40059
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Hey how come the EXE won't work? Do I have to recompile or something? It keeps saying script modified when I click on the EXE. Just wanted to test your shader :P Any suggestions please?




Obviously you must have modified the script (Opened it up in SED and re-saved it with or without changes). If this is the case, please download the file again and don't make any changes.

I haven't downloaded the file yet, just check and see if thats the answer to your problems. Thats the most reasonable solution out there.

@Nadester
Come on, last night you wouldn't let anyone pick on the others, so you shouldn't be picking on the model they chose to use. Thats their personal showcasing model of choice, and you can't make them change it now. Let things, people, whatever be and finish BBR for all of us.


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Re: Crome Shader [Re: ISG] #40060
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As I keep saying, I'm not picking on them at all... just making my point that Acknex Unlimited shouldn't release them as naked as they are.


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Re: Crome Shader [Re: Nadester] #40061
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Acknex Unlimited shouldn't release them as naked as they are.





I think that not only should the license change for these model or other resources, but they should also give a link to some-sort-of licensed agreement or disclaimer for these resources.

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As I keep saying, I'm not picking on them at all...




@DragonXdark This:
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What are the terms of use? That's def. the same thing as the one from Halo... I'm sure Bungie wouldn't be too pleased if people were using it in commercial projects. (Not to scold you, the use of it here is fine. Just in general.)



didn't come across to me as Nadester picking on you.
I think you definately took it the wrong way.
The way I see it he was just curious as-to the terms of use to keep the two of you out of trouble.

If you are still offended by what he said then take ^that post(the one above mine) as an appology.

Re: Crome Shader [Re: Josh_Arldt] #40062
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Acknex Unlimited shouldn't release them as naked as they are.



Hmmm, just to think I was thinking Acknex Unlimited should more naked models
Anyway, now that I see what you mean I agree...but for the sake of being careless I'll just keep the banshee there...actualy come to think of it I didn't even pick the banshee Braxton did.


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