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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: WretchedSid] #401630
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The pain, I presume, is that you break things while you didn't think so. Unit Testing tells you what situations will break when you refactor. Shouldn't feel like bathtub kitty so much anymore.


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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: Joozey] #401646
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I know what Unit Tests are and the fact is that I use them, they still don't make refactoring easier...
Granted, making sure that everything works afterwards is easy, but I dare you to refactor a large project which usually looks like:
10 Minutes: "Mhhh, okay, I will just change this and ever..."
120 Minutes: "Whoops, well, okay, I see, this depends on this... Uhm, okay, lets change this too and"
180 Minutes: "WTF, why is this method/class used all over the place? Okay, lets change this too"
3 Days: "OMGWTF HAVE I DONE?!!"
2 Weeks: "Can I please discard all the changes I have done and we forget this whole refactoring stuff?"


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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: WretchedSid] #401658
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You can't win your 2 weeks back, but ofcourse you use source control to roll back your code laugh.

If unit testing alone doesn't work out for you well enough, perhaps add code coverage? Haven't tried it, but seems to work for this sir:
http://www.ericsink.com/articles/Code_Coverage.html


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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: Joozey] #401684
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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: Joozey] #401699
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Joozey, doesn't really work with libraries, eh? tongue
And yes, my source control can roll it back, thats exactly what I was implying with my last line ^^


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Re: Fun Thread reloaded [Re: WretchedSid] #402965
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@Pappenheimer: THAT is really impressive!

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@Pappenheimer: I loved it! :>


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Always learn from history, to be sure you make the same mistakes again...
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