No, of course not. Who'd be doing an FPS?
We're all working on our planned FPSRPGRTSMMO. Already got the basic idea, just need someone to take care of the graphics. And sound. And coding.

And calling yourself CEO...

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I think FPS are intriguing at first.
Most engines provide tha basic buildingsteps to make a simple FPS run.
(Walking, Shooting, GUI, FPS friendly leveldesign)
Giving the hobby CEO quick first results.

Sticking in some crammed together Models (with inconsistant stlye), and overtly expensive Shaders, then dreaming that
this will close in to a Crysis Level.

FPS are like a honeypot to new devs, they seem easy at first.


RTS for example are much much less common as "first" projects,
simply because the amount of work needed to get it running (not just a pretty level with some models)
as prototype is much larger.

If new devs would take a realistic path, we would
see many more Pong,Snake,Super Mario,Angry Birds and Bejeweld clones.
Gametypes that have a simpler architecture, and
the option to pull off a full and consistant game as a hobby developer.

In the days of A4/5 it was quite possible to achieve the quality of an AAA fps. Nowadays techniques have improved a lot and the number of employees is a lot higher than in the past. Still almost all beginner's engines are designed to make shooter games. I think damocles knows best about the difficulties of writing an RTS with Gamestudio.

Sticking in some crammed together Models (with inconsistant stlye), and overtly expensive Shaders, then dreaming that
this will close in to a Crysis Level.

If you target FPS , and prhaps selling something, i would like to give you and advice :
Take UT3 engine, or Crysis indeed, they have latest shaders, powerfull scene management, advanced pathfinding system, advanced physics.
What you will need will be to find a good team of 3D artists or you'll be sticked to the AAA quality default 3d models
and textures of these engines.

I played a lot FPS, i'm somewhat borred now,Bioshock was a great alternative.
Half Life 2 brought great physic puzzles.
Skyrim have some great FPS camera system very immersive.
Metroid on Gamecube was great also.
Minecraft brought originality and free crafting system.

Shooter games are too much the same, not enought innovation.
Game makers should think of more interaction , less shooting or fighting and more other special actions.

True words, Bioshock was indeed a great gameplay idea!
But the problem with most shooters is that you don't think about shooting someone...
Minecraft has the Hardcore-Mode where you loose your whole progress if you die
i think if a tactical shooter is like this, it would be an awesome game
because the mission will be the fun, not shooting others (because they can also shoot back )

That would force people to repeatedtly press quick save and quick load, which is no fun at all either. You simply can't do that - it is discouraging people.

And voilá, you nailed the stealth genre. Thief, Slinter Cell, anyone?

While quick save and quick load are staples of the standard FPS, they can simply be removed for hardcore mode. Or, when on hardcore mode, those options are immediately disabled upon death. Diablo 3 (a LONG game, from what I've heard) has a hardcore option, so why can't FPS games?

Also, check out the "roguelike" genre, where permadeath is part of its awesomeness. There's no reason a stealth-focused or shooter-focused first-person approach (or both) can't be brought to procedurally generated permadeath games.

But I think what we're missing is Error014's actual question, which was probably prompted by the (relatively) many FPS games coming up in the "What are you working on?" thread, and was directed towards the developers behind those projects: Why are you doing it? And similarly: what makes yours different from the many, many others out there?

EDIT: Left 4 Dead! How could I forget? Perfect example of a FPS with permadeath. Although I guess not "tactical" in the traditional sense -- playing against baddies who also have guns. But that's a perfect place for someone to step in and make something innovative, and would be a great answer to Error014's questions if a GS user was actually making that game.

I don't know about Left 4 Dead 1, but in Left 4 Dead 2 you can be saved by a defibrilator and you respawn in the level at a certain point (or in a save room).

True... okay, Left 4 Dead isn't a great example for permadeath.