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Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: ] #407919
09/21/12 08:32
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Only when you set the Margin slider down to 2. With $20 margin you'd still need $2000, no matter the account. It would then just purchase more lots.

If you want to trade only one system, I suggest Z2. It is less profitable than Z1, but has a higher win rate and takes profits faster.

For being 100% on the safe side, you could decide to wait until we opened some micro accounts and tested them over some weeks. Theoretically there shouldn't be a problem, but maybe there's some unknown side effect of a very low margin. We had never run Zorro on a micro lot account so far.

Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: jcl] #407923
09/21/12 09:10
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Sounds like this can be solved if the risk slider incorporates 0.01 lot increases so we can trade 10 cents a lot. For the poor like myself

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Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: ] #408037
09/24/12 08:13
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Unfortunately not yet. We have now tested microlot accounts and I posted a comment here:

http://www.opserver.de/ubb7/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=408036#Post408036

When you run Z1 or Z2 on a microlot account and set Margin at a low value such as 2, it will indeed trade a low volume with currencies. But with CFDs the lot size is still the same as for a mini account. So with Margin at 2, but required Margin at 50 for a CFD, Zorro will skip 24 trades and enter a full lot at the 25th. So you still need $2000 capital because Z1 and Z2 trade with CFDs.

We'll include a currency-only version of Z1 and Z2 in one of the next updates. Until then, I recommend not to trade with only $200 on your account. This money is at risk as soon as Zorro purchases the first CFD contract.

Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: jcl] #408046
09/24/12 09:45
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Seems the test has to be put on hold. Account is funded and as soon as I settle on a trading script, I will start my test. Wanted to start with Z1 but as it includes CFDs, I will wait till a forex only version comes through. Think I will add the HUCK trend catcher to the tut final script and trade that.

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Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: ] #408209
09/27/12 12:26
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So I have decided to test the account with the workshop 6 script with a lot more assets, all forex. I will be doing a weekly review of my progress... So stay tuned. And with time I will be adding more systems to the script. So far it is just the two systems from the tutorials.

Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: ] #408214
09/27/12 14:19
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Looks like when I increase the number of assets in the tutorial script the profitability falls and the capital needed increases. I perfectly understand the need to more capital but the falling profitability needs more research. I have therefore decided to start with workshop_6 final script.

Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: jcl] #408229
09/27/12 17:47
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Unfortunately not yet. We have now tested microlot accounts and I posted a comment here:

http://www.opserver.de/ubb7/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=408036#Post408036

When you run Z1 or Z2 on a microlot account and set Margin at a low value such as 2, it will indeed trade a low volume with currencies. But with CFDs the lot size is still the same as for a mini account. So with Margin at 2, but required Margin at 50 for a CFD, Zorro will skip 24 trades and enter a full lot at the 25th. So you still need $2000 capital because Z1 and Z2 trade with CFDs.

We'll include a currency-only version of Z1 and Z2 in one of the next updates. Until then, I recommend not to trade with only $200 on your account. This money is at risk as soon as Zorro purchases the first CFD contract.


What about setting the CFDs in the .fac file to zero ?

Last edited by Gattaca; 09/27/12 18:05.
Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: Gattaca] #408275
09/28/12 13:52
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You're absolutely right. I should have come up with that idea myself...

Edit z1.fac or z2.fac and set all investment factors of all non-currencies to zero, f.i.

Code:
GER30:BB:L          .201  2.15   40/24  ->  GER30:BB:L          .000  2.15   40/24


Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: jcl] #408280
09/28/12 15:45
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Then this test starts on Monday sunday then.

Re: Zoro Live FXCM Test [Re: ] #408282
09/28/12 16:03
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Does Z1 and Z2 have an automatic retrain line? And a bit confused about the the margin and risk sliders. Does margin * risk give me the highest possible loss I want zorro to take or the minimum risk per trade (based on volume adjustment) ?

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