I don't know how fast the new editor development is, there are no too much info about it, only that it will use the engine dll for display thus real time editing should be possible, and the main concept is ease of use... as a consequence, I'm improving my own editor (due to my own special requirements)

Well it has been announced from months, it will be a year, and no screenshot about some new editor ?
PErsonnaly i just doubt a lot to see it, or be impressed, because i use some other 3D egines already having top notch world editor ...
But who knows, some people could be surprised ?
Once again, people seeking workflow in 3DGS improvment will just have to wait.
And programmers mainly using it don't care a lot, or have used 3DGS from years with WED and MED , so they can wait also !

And now, with Unity 4 in public beta ... is this the death knell of GameStudio? And, frankly, it's not the release of Unity 4, but the LACK of updates to GameStudio. And the fact that, frankly, GameStudio is seems so out of date. This saddens me. GameStudio and I go back a long way ...

i think unity is just a little bit faster in development because of the lack of gamestudio developers
but i hope the android support will be out "soon"

i currenlty switched to XNA not because it's "better" than gamestudio but i have much more control over the rendering (have to write all renderings from scratch)

That may be, but the GameStudio developers have been here for a long, long time. There was a time when they were in the lead as far as indie game engines were concerned. They had some good developers working for them, developers that would communicate with us on the forum. But these people are gone. And, as we've seen, the betas have become more and more silent.

I know. I know. I need to stop dredging this up. But GameStudio is deeply rooted in my past. I hate to see GameStudio slip from its lofty position among game engines to slowly fade into obscurity.

The description of this "Rants"-forum may make it seem different, but you have valid points, and it's only fair to voice them. With the perceived halfing (that may or may not be real) of development time due to Zorro, I think it feels more grave as ever.


Personally, I've tried to not get involved in this particular discussion here so far, but sure, I can't help but wonder as well.

So what I'm saying is, you shouldn't have to apologize for wondering and bringing your concerns up, and more communication from Conitec would be great, if only it was a daily (or even weekly!) updated forum post "What we are working on". And no one can argue that this forum has become more quiet than it used to be.



Aaah, I miss the old times.

unfortunately development became very slow, I thought Android and new WED is ready until Dec, but I think it will be next summer... updates and bug-fixes are also has a slow speed, but exactly reported stuff is always solved, so this side is not bad.
what I don't know is whether adding only Android support is enough or not when you have a couple of really multi-platform engine options...
Unity with its pricing policy is not an absolute winner, I simply won't buy the Pro, and the Free lacks LOD and shaders necessary for creating nice water. if it would have an interim version at half price, offering me what I minimally need, I would buy it.

I guess we need to be happy just for getting simple updates (even if they come out once in a year), and forget about new "awesome" WED and mobile support.. For me, they are like doomsday.. Some believe that it will be there, someday.. Others don't believe in it at all I only anchor one's hope on some community users, which are making some nice tools to make 3DGS not that much outdated. Thank you guys for your time and work!

Really fucking nice too see jcl answering questions in that "Zorro" bullshit.. about half an hour ago.. And not having enough time to answer anything in "bug hunt" forum!

Who are 3dgs's team? I always thought it was just JCL.
Anyway it seems to me now that 3dgs is going away very soon now, will probably become free and open source while "Zorro" flashes his blade.