Ok i changed this post as some users pointed what i said as beeing stupid !

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This is crazy, but each time i go to Unity i find so much new games and tools in the makings, even mazing ones made by amateurs that looks so good ?? I'm amazed ...
So i thaught to luanch some open discussion


I don't have seen people here producing such good done FPS for example game on the amateur side (made by a lonewolf) !
amateur FPS
Little team for some MMO :
MMO City of Steam

Even independant people produce , more and more amzing tools :
procedural character generation
MegaShapes

Well i think Unity is just like a small snow ball increasing each time ... specially with all stuff on their Store.
And beeing so 3D artist oriented and helping them with great tools , just make it even more popular among all 3D artists people.
I didn't have seen 3DGS in 3D artists forum, or i missed lot of threads ... they usually use UDK, and some Unity when it comes to think on some game perhaps.

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I agree 3DGS can stay with it's own editor, without looking too much at what others do. There will always be market for it indeed.
Like Dark Basic Pro and all it's fans, Ogre 3D and it's commercial projects etc ...
I didn't say Unity will be the only one indeed.
Even teams have choosen Open source engine like Ogre 3D to be free to do as they want and their own tools.


Unity before becoming popular, was used, had a great workflow and editor that Mac users loved a lot indeed.
And it was made by one man, the actual man behind all unity staff
I think he just put all chances by making a good 3D engine , and friendly editor with lot of visual things to help 3D artists. Unity had a great solid workflow and a 3D editor people loved to use, i think this was a great start even when it wasnt' so popular.
Than he brought the editor for Windows, just opened it to all Windows users, but what made it even more popular has been all mobile games, caus it wasn't so lot of PC or console projects known games ,only few !
I won't wait for mobile, but if 3DGS allow mobile games, yes it will be a serious boost i think.
We'll have to see all advantages against other mobile ready 3D engines ?

So what could make 3DGS more popular ?
- Mobile ?
- Lot more 3D artist orieted stuff :
I don't talk about complete game style template but a lot of little things here and here that make 3D artists happy (visual helpers, terrain editor, import formats, real time editing , snapping tools , shader list to apply them directly etc ...) ?

Will 3DGS grows a lot when some new things will come ?
(I think some users prefer that question than the previous one ?)

Thanks for bringing this really outstandingly important topic, which has never been discussed here before, to our attention. I think you're totally right. Unity will be the standard for indie developers. All other engines will die. GameStudio will be the first victim of unity. Also I think that this forum is dying.

Ceterum censeo carthaginem esse delendam.

@Uhrwerk :
Re read my modified post !
So now do you think my last question is better ?

Core power of gamestudio is the very easy to use liteC script language.
Even if you have so much more possibilities with UnityJavaScript.
And yes - if gamestudio would have the same workflow like unity... gamestudio would be king. But the reality is... that unity has more man power and I am sure, the U-Team works very hard to get scripting easier. Just look at the new animation system. Fuck!
... shit... why do I am writing this fuck?
Ratchet are you totally blind and sick and not able to think about this shit one minute at your own fucking grey mass?
The real shit is... I don´t like this fucking "all with love" and "lots of love"-crap!
I do not like these very respectable way of conversation like THEY do.
Difference between Unity Forum and Gamestudio is...

If I think - you are a sick motherfucker... I can write it here down.
If I would be a unity com member - I have to write... shit like the first sentences above.

I think Bowie could spell it better out what is ment to be a member of the gs com.

[video:youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBuwC4VJi50[/video]

I am very sure about one thing....
If you would print T-Shirts with the following
" I am proud to be a member of this fucking com"
you would earn more money then JCL did it with A8 the last 3 years.

Be rassured, i don't have that T shirt style
And im' not some Ynity fna boy also, i was just surprised by all the projects that are going on by simple guys like you and me in their forums ...

And i use 3DGS, but another 3D engine actually, an indie one and i won't talk about it , it is just amazing in 3D features and easy to program (but it don't have already some plugin programming possibilities as Unity )

Well ok, my post Rant will not be constructive and i think it's useless ... it could be closed or deleted so !

Well, if you're asking me personally, no. It's like: "What do you think will the weather be in 2015?". Why not just awaiting the things to come?

hey, don't forget XNA here!!

@ratchet: If you want a programmers engine, take XNA!!
Only thing good for designers is the "direct" FBX import (without animation of course!)

i really like gamestudio but i recently switched nearly completly over to XNA because i can program my way (which means i try to clone the gamestudio API )
but XNA has some advantages over gs:
you program object oriented.
that's all

afaik XNA is dying?