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Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #431689
10/22/13 16:39
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The factors are not ok, and the reason is apparently not enough trades in the training period. We'll check the reason of this. Inbetween please continue with the original .fac and .par files - retraining them is not yet necessary. There will be also a new update in the next time with a new parameter set.

Have you downloaded new prices before training?

Re: Z12 trade [Re: jcl] #431696
10/22/13 17:13
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I can't remember to 100% so i will run the download script and again will do a train.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #432559
11/08/13 10:31
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I have just started testing Z12 i have 2 trades on AUD/USD where the stop is more that 4000pips from the entry price.ie but .95xx stop .53xx The trades have been open for at least a day with no update on the stop.

Does this look ok?
i saw somewhere a comment on the forum that it did not look coorect.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: TMM] #432564
11/08/13 11:58
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I also have two AUDUSD trades open:

SLs are 0.95689 and 0.96930. Those are emergency SLs. You can see the real SLs when you hit the 'Result' button at the Zorro GUI. From what i see the emergency SLs are okay. The real SLs used by Zorro are much tighter.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #432565
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ok thanks I see it

Re: Z12 trade [Re: TMM] #432671
11/11/13 09:57
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I have a question:

One of the trades Z12s took surprises me:

11.09.2013 16:20 USDCAD Sell 0.11 1.04181

I can't see how the open price was ever reached at the 09/08.11.2013.

The lowest price between 07.11 and 11.11 was ~1.044 .

@jcl: Can you confirm that this is not an error. If this trade was taken with a 'huge' spread then I would like to set a threshold for a maximum spread.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #432672
11/11/13 10:05
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I cannot answer why you got that price - you must ask your broker about that. Check that trade in the trading station or in MT4. If you want to complain about a certain trade, contact the broker support and give them the trade ticket number - they'll look into it.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: jcl] #432674
11/11/13 11:09
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So there is no way to prevent such a trade. Okay. Zorro knows the actual values of current price and spread and sends the order to the broker. What the broker then gives Zorro back can be something completely different.
Thats life.

I think it is a good idea to ask FXCM how such a price could be possible.

Thank you...

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #432678
11/11/13 14:23
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It is theoretically possible to prevent a trade at a bad price, using a pending trade with an entry limit. But the current Z systems don't do that but just enter at market.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: jcl] #432679
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jcl,

can zorro not set a max slippage when sending an order in real trading?

Metatrader can do this I think, so it should be relatively easy to code it in the metatrader bridge.

I understand that for the z-strategies on 1 - 4 hr timeframes it is a minor issue, but for those trading lower time frames, it may be useful. I know some traders who implement a max slippage and a max spread filter before taking any trade.

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