Eh, the worst part was having to google how to restart that bloody machine. The rest went relatively straight forward

@MasterQ32: That makes 2 and a half supported systems. If anyone finds Tilman, tell him that Linux ain't working.

The Alpha is going to only have Windows and OS X, mostly because we know how to use these systems and are able to help with them. It also makes it easier on us to distribute nightly builds and support in general. But Linux and iOS and Android are definitely still coming up.

Thanks for clearing it up. Nice to see that you did overcome your windows compiler problems. How have you solved it? Workaround code or did the wonder of an compiler update happen?

Both. Some of the stuff we needed was thankfully added in Visual Studio 2013. Stuff like constexpr and noexcept has special compiler switches, some stuff is just flat out our own due to missing support (fixed width types).
The biggest problem honestly was that some things were supposed to be implemented, but then we ended up running into some strange bug... Especially when it came to rvalues, move semantics and (perfect-)forwarding. Oh dear, that was fun.

There's no way to get it running on VS2012 due to missing core language support, but for VS2013 we could work around every obstacle that was left.
That means that, if you want to use Rayne, you'll have to switch to VS2013 as well because of ABI constraints and header that require it, but that shouldn't be that much of a problem I guess.

Edit3: I would love to actually go ahead and switch to C++14/C++1y. It seriously does allow for some fucking neato stuff, and the support would be there in Clang. Function lifting thanks to function return type deduction... Man, that would be sweet as fuck (come to think of it, maybe you can actually do something with decltype() and function templates). But yeah, the future for C++ looks amazing, and C++11 definitely feels like a whole new language. I wish adoption and support for new standards would be much faster, though adoption is inherently tied to support.

Hands up, who would like to be either Slin or me right now?



Oh, and by the way, we also have a forum now: http://rayne3d.com/community
Nothing exciting, especially if you are not on our super awesome alpha tester list (and even then, there won't be much fun until the 1st), but hey, details, eh?

(The download links in there are real btw).

No one? Well, fuck you guys!

Our alpha testers should have an email with their login credentials now. The first Rayne alpha is released. It was a seriously long night and a much longer day to push the release out today. We actually thought we would be super awesomely in time, and then the last minute bugs and stuff swept all over us.

Not much to say otherwise, over 2000 commits and over a year of development and we just made it into Alpha. It's not too bad of an alpha, but it's definitely not a beta yet; the windows toolchain is kind of crazy... But fuck yeah, we took less time for that than the last Gamestudio minor release took. Take that JCL!

Questions anyone?

Oh: If you haven't got an email from us but got a message from me telling you that you are part of the alpha testers: Check your spam folder and make sure that you allow emails from admin@rayne3d.com. If you still can't find it, message me via PM!

first of all, congratulation to both of you!

I'm just upgrading from vs2010 to 2013. I hope nothing can go wrong, then I'll test it in the next days. or is it a wise thing to install 2013 beside 2010? Edit: okay I read they should work fine.

Congrats! My question would be:
Where to start?
Is there any manual or something?

Join the forum!
It already has some useful information, and the manual needs to be updated to the latest API changes before we will publish it (besides of the fact that a lot is still missing anyways).

Also, load the sample game, start it in Release mode (don't report bugs about it crashing in debug mode, we know that :p), tinker around with it. Read the Headers (in \\Visual Studio 12\\VC\\include\\Rayne).

Ask questions in our Forum!

Downloading VS 2013 from MSDNAA. Forum is empty for me?

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