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Re: Z12 trade [Re: DMB] #435214
01/03/14 21:48
01/03/14 21:48

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so dont put your trust in others. Write your own scripts and work them

Re: Z12 trade [Re: ] #435215
01/03/14 21:49
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Very interesting writeup DMB. I have also heard of noone who systematically earns money from algorithmic trading. And also have seen many failures, actually too many to count.

Yet, there's so much beauty and creativity in the process of developement of automated strategies, that I still feel like I'm at the beggining of the trip and have still a lot to learn before I can fusion all those important bits and produce my first profitable strategy, one that I would finally trust to trade with real money. Obviously, it's also a very time consuming process, and that I believe is the main obstacle on the road. While professional quants receive their salary, so they can concentrate on the important things most of the day, most of us are approaching this as a hobby (i.e. an hour or two a day, on the average). We do have big plans for the future, of course, but a quite distant future, I'm afraid.

I understand you're dissapointed with Z's performance, and I'm too, but I decided just today to give 'em some more months, based on new discoveries. That jcl won't reveal his performance is telling, I agree. wink But as I already replied privately, I see bigger value in Zorro itself, as a development platform, than in Z's, because honestly, I think I could never fully trust black box with real money. Yes, if Z's were performing very good, I would probably trust them with some small amount (chicken :)), but so far there's no evidence it would've been a great move.

So, I'll continue running the demo for the indefinite time, but my primary interest will continue to be additional education and research, and for that I love Zorro.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: ] #435228
01/04/14 05:03
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@Acidburn - Thanks for keeping the demo up for the indefinite period. I do hope Zs prove themselves with more time. Zorro is great software. I wish I had it 10 years ago when I was first programming Larry Williams' stuff (not that the Oops! pattern is relevant any more.)

Of course I want to create my own stuff and not rely on the Zs. It's a great creative outlet. But with only a few spare hours each day, there is only so much time I can put into this.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: DMB] #435230
01/04/14 09:03
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@Acidburn have you considered running dusktraders script for a couple of months. He made it available to the community and it seems like a good system to put on the test lab.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: ] #435233
01/04/14 10:27
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Originally Posted By: liftoff
@Acidburn have you considered running dusktraders script for a couple of months. He made it available to the community and it seems like a good system to put on the test lab.


Yes, I have considered it. Dusktraders work is, together with lots of other stuff, on my longish todo list. I took a bit of a creative pause last few months with intention to now catchup in the next few weeks. No, it's not a NY resolution, because those typicially fail, it's a coincidence that I reactivated right at the beginning of 2014. tongue

But, here's a trouble. Running multiple OS-es takes resources. I have only one slot remaining for my own work. So, to demo dusktrader's or any other nice strategy, I would need to kill something already running. Last few weeks I wasn't looking nicely at Z12 and was contemplating the idea of replacing it with dusktrader's strategy. Now, I'm not so sure, I'd like to give Z12 some more time to see if it can recover.

I wonder if anybody else has the resources to run other strategies? I wonder have I missed some more efficient way to run multiple Zorro's (anybody using Wine here, or ReactOS, how's it going?). It would be so much easier if Zorro allowed multiple connections to the broker, but...

Re: Z12 trade [Re: ] #435234
01/04/14 11:12
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@Acidburn, perfectly understand you. If I am able to land a job this month, I am sure I can have a setup by March to help test some of these strategies.
Good to hear your interest has been rekindled.

Re: Z12 trade [Re: ] #435430
01/08/14 07:22
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Hi jcl,

I think I have a problem with my Z12 instance. When you look at my Z12 link at myfxbook (signature) you can see that there are less trades. Compared to acids Z12 demo, where he has many trades, I'am asking myself if there is a prob with my Z12 instance. The Zorro info panel doesn't show anything important:
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[Mon 06.01. 08:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Mon 06.01. 12:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Mon 06.01. 16:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Mon 06.01. 20:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 00:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 04:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 08:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 12:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 16:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Tue 07.01. 20:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Wed 08.01. 00:07] 4381 -563 +0
[Wed 08.01. 04:07] 4381 -563 +0

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'I set my sliders to:
Margin: 60
Risk: 20

Z.ini contains:

NFA = 0
FXOnly = 0
MMax = 100
Phantom = 0
Comma = 0
Mute = 0
Weekend = 2
Verbose = 2
BrokerPatch = 0
Preload = 0

Thanks in advance

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Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #435437
01/08/14 08:58
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Your Z12 should normally have placed trades in the last 2 days. At least we had trades with our Z12 versions. Risk 20 is even a little high, we're trading with Risk 10.

Have you excluded some assets from the portfolio? Are you trading with the most recent version and parameter set?

Re: Z12 trade [Re: jcl] #435489
01/08/14 13:39
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Hi jcl,

I changed the Risk from 10 to 20 last week. I restarted the Amazon VPS and now I have a AUDUSD trade running with 0.06 lot . *LOL*
So I will change it back to Risk 10 now. I will post again when I have a new trade!?

Thanks jcl!

Re: Z12 trade [Re: Sundance] #435490
01/08/14 13:42
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Little update: Zorro says

(AUD/USD:LP:S) Short 6@0.8930 Entry limit
[AUD/USD:LP:S4330] Short 6@0.8929 Risk 24 ts



What does Rsik 24 ts mean? ts?

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