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Re: fake an outline shader [Re: Kartoffel] #441843
06/04/14 16:56
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Yes, that's what I said in my post above:

Originally Posted By: Superku
You can do this in a modeling program: Duplicate your model, scale it a little (by normals, which is not possible in MED), invert the normals and apply a black skin.


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Re: fake an outline shader [Re: Kartoffel] #441862
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I have done as Superku suggested, but I'm not getting anywhere. I have absolutely no experience with blender, and it's looking to stay that way grin I feel like there is an issue with the importing of obj and 3ds into MED. If I scale along the normal and export as 3ds to import into MED, it imports at half of the size of the original. If i export as obj to import into MED, it imports even smaller at almost a quarter of its original size. In case you are wondering, I'm importing it back into MED because 1) I need to save it as a mdl 2) I can't flip normals in blender.

I really appreciate you guys taking time to offer tips and suggestions. If you want, I'll download HyperCam or similar to record my desktop so you guys can see exactly what i'm doing (if it's something wrong) and see what my problem is. Just let me know.

Re: fake an outline shader [Re: xbox] #441864
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Originally Posted By: xbox
it imports at half of the size of the original.

I'd bet it has something to do with the inch<->cm relation.

Salud!

Re: fake an outline shader [Re: txesmi] #441900
06/05/14 17:16
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Okay, I recorded a video showing exactly what I'm doing, maybe someone can point out something I'm doing wrong??

Thanks again for the help.

[video:youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEdXhYmwwBI&feature=youtu.be[/video]

Re: fake an outline shader [Re: xbox] #441901
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I don't have the time to watch the entire video, sorry, but it seems like you scale the model globally: you have to scale every polygon along it's normal, the shortcut is 'alt+s'.

to flip the normals, simply press 'w' and click "flip normals".

at least these are the shortcuts for the blender version I use.
for both, the scaling and flipping the normals, you have to select the whole model.

Edit: well, looks like the video isn't as long as I expected... from what I saw you did everything right, there's just a scale problem when converting the model.
maybe you could try another format like fbx.

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Re: fake an outline shader [Re: Kartoffel] #441930
06/06/14 21:28
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I've tried 3ds, and obj files. Obj comes out even smaller than 3ds. I wanted to try fbx but when I went to import into MED, I discovered no fbx option...when was that taken out??

Re: fake an outline shader [Re: xbox] #441937
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It shouldn't be taken out... I import from FBX because I purchased from arteria

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Re: fake an outline shader [Re: DLively] #441943
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I have MED version 6.922. For as long as I remember there was an fbx import option, but this is what I have

Re: fake an outline shader [Re: xbox] #441945
06/07/14 06:32
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I have seen/ read this FBX problem multiple times in the past, search for it. I don't know the reason or fix anymore but you could try to re-install Gamestudio.


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Re: fake an outline shader [Re: Superku] #441947
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