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Re: What are you working on? [Re: FEL] #445524
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@^: They can not?

not yet tongue

if you look at an image you don't just see some colors, but your mind creates a whole, three-dimensional image based on things like lighting and most of all also experience. f.e. if you've seen the object once before you know exactly the shape of it, or if you look at a photo of a room your mind knows what a room usually looks like (walls are perpendicular to the floor, etc.) and can create a whole image out of it, which is most likely correct.

This also happens to all objects in this photo. You immediately know what belongs to every object and what all these objects are, which is again hugely based on your experience and things like lighting and other stuff.

A computer, however, just sees some colors and cannot precieve the scene in the same way as you do.


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Re: What are you working on? [Re: Kartoffel] #445529
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With help of Kartoffel and the community i overperfected the Shader Framework Shade-C in combine with kartoffels-PP.

If i look back to older progress i made this is a far and big step laugh a little for me, but a giant for my Project!





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Re: What are you working on? [Re: FEL] #445530
09/12/14 13:31
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I'm kind of supprised that this even works, but it looks good, great job.

The contrast between shadowed and lit in the first shot is just a bit too high imo.
But except for that I like it laugh


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Re: What are you working on? [Re: Kartoffel] #445531
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Thx laugh

Its no Contrast... its just hilarious dark grin i guess my monitor is calibrated wrong...


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Re: What are you working on? [Re: FEL] #445532
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I don't think so, it's just that in reality light would reflect off the stones and light up the areas that are shadowed. With a pitch black shadow it just looks a bit weird.


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Re: What are you working on? [Re: Kartoffel] #445533
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thats a point, but i dont want illumination. laugh i like it how it is right now, but i still need your functions to work. U now see how important it is... :3


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Re: What are you working on? [Re: FEL] #445534
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You could add a dummy light if it doesn't kill the performance ;P

anyway, I'll see what I can do.


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I fixed a few things laugh

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Re: What are you working on? [Re: Kartoffel] #445551
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Originally Posted By: Kartoffel
@^: no way this is just the filter. Computers cannot detect edges the same way as a person does.


Aber Computerprogramme können Kontraste finden - und hierbei setzt die Technik an. Btw... ich arbeite an einer Filtertechnik, nicht an einem Filter. Beim folgenden Bild ist z.B. der Aquarellfilter im Einsatz.
Arbeitszeit ca 8 Minuten für das Bild - keine Striche zusätzlich mit dem Cintiq zugefügt. Nur eben die Kombi von Filtern.



Vielleicht noch als Anmerkung... die Technik soll gerade für solche gruseligen Darstellungen zum Einsatz kommen. Ruhigere Motive würden dabei völlig zerstört werden.

Re: What are you working on? [Re: alpha_strike] #445554
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