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Gamestudio 8.46 public beta #453725
08/10/15 08:12
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Gamestudio version 8.46 is now available for the usual 1-week public beta test before becoming the official release. You can download it here:

http://server.conitec.net/down/gstudio8_setup.exe

This interim update addresses many small but annoying engine and lite-C issues that accumulated over the years. A list of all changes can be found here:

http://manual.3dgamestudio.net/newfeatures8.htm

Install the update over your Gamestudio 8.45 version. Please report any problems to the bug forum.

Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: jcl] #453726
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Great to see an update! Thank you jcl!
I wanted to ask about that OBB collusion problem which I've reported earlier. No luck to get it fixed soon?

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Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: 3run] #453727
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Afraid not. OBB is an external library that was never touched for almost a decade. Thus a modification is not really easy. It's on our list, but for the next time you must live with it.

Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: jcl] #453728
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input_init - thank you a lot for this!

Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: jcl] #453729
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It's good to see that the engine is still in development.
Is there a hope to see a some other updates this year?


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Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: MasterQ32] #453731
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Quote:
Exceeding max_entities does now not terminate the application anymore.
, yay thanks laugh . And the new ifelse will come in handy too.

Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: jcl] #453744
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Originally Posted By: jcl
Afraid not. OBB is an external library that was never touched for almost a decade. Thus a modification is not really easy. It's on our list, but for the next time you must live with it.
It's good to hear that it's 'on the list', thank you very much!

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Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: 3run] #453754
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The operator precedence was changed so that expressions like mystruct.array[123] need no parentheses anymore.

I have to say: thanks! While i complained a lot about the last couple of years(and this was definetly on my list) it's good to see this quirk being fixed(i know ffor the compiler it's no quirk, but compared to other compilers) laugh

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The ifelse function is a more convenient substitute for the C ?: operator than if..else.


That's quite usefull. Is it implemented by the compiler directly or as "normal" function with normal parameters? A small note in the manual for the difference between IFELSE(function) and the C ?: operator at runtime might be usefull for beginners in this case.

The difference occurs for example in this case:

Lite-C
Code:
x = IfElse(A==B, GetMyValX(), GetMyValY());


C
Code:
x = (A==B) ? GetMyValX() : GetMyValY();(



The difference is:
In Lite-C it will always call both functions to push their result as parameters. In C only the evaluated path is executed, which means only one function is called, which results in way less overhead. So if both functions are quite expensive, it's better to restructure the code to use a normal if. Assuming IFELSE is "just" a function.

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Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: Rackscha] #453761
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It is a function that is not really complex:

var ifelse(BOOL c,var a,var b) { if(c) return a; return b; }

And yes, unlike ?: all branches are executed. For not executing branches we're using the old fashioned if.

Re: Gamestudio 8.46 public beta [Re: jcl] #453791
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Originally Posted By: jcl
Afraid not. OBB is an external library that was never touched for almost a decade. Thus a modification is not really easy. It's on our list, but for the next time you must live with it.
I have another question, jcl. Will you add additional shapes (or at least one more - capsule) for OBB library, if we will collect enough votes for it over the forum (let's say). The reasonы why I ask this now are:

1 - community members kept asking for this for a quite long time and kept on ranting that OBB with only elipsoid doesn't fit their (our) needs;
2 - now, when you said that it's just an external library which wasn't really ever touched, I understand (at least I hope so) why you refused to add another collusion shape back then. Probably cause it didn't really seemed to be worthy messing around with external library which works as it is (out of the box), but now you, when you are going to look for that BUG I've reported and going to mess around with that library anyway, maybe there is a way to add one more collusion shape, to satisfy US (community members, which still help to keep Acknex undead)? We could do a vote, to see if people are in need of one more collusion shape (CAPSULE).

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