Originally Posted By: JeyKey II
Originally Posted By: Veratyr
Here's an MT4 report. Some of those are Z7 though: http://dev.guymac.eu/atexar

USDCAD loss is transaction 2283459.

OK. The Trades are almost the same (second line,my Z12)
REPORTS:
Ticket...Open Time..........Type Size..Item..Close Time
2283459 2016.01.18 10:04:02 sell 0.06 usdcad 2016.01.20 10:26:04
09457265 1/18/16 3:15 AM......................1/20/16 3:31 AM

BUT:
Your Report show only 1 open Trade (USDJPY) at that time
My Z12 but has 17 open Trades

That means:
You have massively intervened by manually close Trades
Any discussion is therefore lapsed

Therefore, we should cease to compare Z12 systems
If one has no confidence in Z12 then let it be. Manual intervention, no strategy can be successful

As I see Z12 used a type of hedging. If you close manualliy
"one side" then: "it could go in the pants"


No, I didn't manually close trades. I only started running systems a couple of days ago and it seems to take a while to start them. I gave you the entire history of my account and it very very clearly shows that only two other trades had been entered after my initial deposits, both of which ended profitably. The USDCAD trade hit stop loss. If I'd closed other trades manually you'd have seen the buy and sell entries there.

Stop being alarmist and look carefully before making baseless accusations.

As for:

Quote:
Manual intervention, no strategy can be successful


If USDCAD had been mean reverting during the training period but an anomaly pops up during live trading, does it not make sense to close the trades and/or retrain?

I'm not suggesting blindly panicking and closing trades that look like they'll lose money, I'm suggesting that we reason about the systems we're using, know their weaknesses and step in if it looks like they're making a mistake they can't know about. Z-systems aren't magic and you shouldn't "trust" them blindly.

Last edited by Veratyr; 01/22/16 18:48.