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Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations #473527
07/19/18 16:50
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Z1/2/12 are designed for Forex/CFD brokers with high leverage.

Are Z1/2/12 still promising with the maximum leverages for retail traders due to the new ESMA regulations?

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: Sphin] #473529
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i think the leverage is not a problem for the strategies,but the margin for opening several trades could be a huge problem. I dont know how to handle this.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: Hopoe] #473532
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The best way to avoid ESMA is opening an account in a non-european broker, for example Dukascopy Bank or GlobalPrime.

I haven't tested the impact of ESMA in Z1/2/12 yet, but it'll surely reduce the number of possible open positions.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: Brax] #473612
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Hi jcl. I would appreciate your thoughts on this ESMA change. I'm told it applies to anyone with a European broker, even if they themselves are not in Europe...

Specifically,

a) The impact on the Z systems.

b) If Zorro will be able to handle the margin problem, or if each of us will have to individually code this in every strategy.

Thanks.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: DdlV] #473614
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Didn't your broker already announce the changes to you? Then I guess you are not affected, those changes have to be realized till 1st of next month and the (regulated) brokers I trade with sent at least 3 mails the last week concerning the changes. laugh

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: Sphin] #473615
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Hi Sphin. Yes, I have mails. And would appreciate jcl's insights as to the impact on Zorro in general and the Z Systems in particular.

I.e., what will happen if one doesn't make a change...

Or should one absolutely make a change?! I.e., stop trading with European brokers immediately because the Z Systems and Zorro's performance is compromised by these changes?

Thanks.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: DdlV] #473620
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Smaller leverage means smaller profit.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: jcl] #473624
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Yes. But what about the margin issue? One broker's example is an account with $2000 balance. Open a trade that requires $1000 margin. If account equity falls to $500, all positions are closed. Do the Z Systems and Zorro handle this?

Thanks.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: DdlV] #473643
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Yes, that's why you'll get smaller profit.

Re: Z1/2/12 and the new ESMA regulations [Re: jcl] #473645
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Great! Then, how do I set this up for Testing?

For ESMA impact #1, I can adjust AssetsFix.csv to account for the lower leverage.

What do I do for ESMA impact #2 (the 50% margin "stop")? The latest word I have from FXCM is that if account equity falls below 50% of the total margin of all trades, opening new trades is prevented until equity returns above. What flag/setting/whatever do I set to say Test in ESMA mode?

Thanks.

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