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Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: Petra] #477716
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Originally Posted by Petra
Start them on same day and with same capital. They have then very similar trades. I have found that otherwise the trades can be very different.

This is interesting. For the Z12 system, I suspect that once the system consumes enough margin, several entry signals get ignored because there is no margin for their respective trades. Therefore, starting at different times would result in different trades with different profits.

Whereas, using a portfolio rotation algorithm, the positions are sized on an absolute basis on regular intervals, in consideration of all trading signals. And therefore, you can expect different people trading the same rotation system to have comparable performances.

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: AndrewAMD] #477755
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To paraphrase, you think that Petra is seeing different trades because trades are being skipped due to margin limits?

My log shows no issues with trades being skipped.

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: sdplay] #477757
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But that's only a matter of whether or not enter calls are being made. The script author can simply choose to not make the call if there is insufficient margin. It can make sense if the author wanted the log output to be less verbose.

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: sdplay] #477823
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PS...

Originally Posted by sdplay
I tested z systems for over a month, and half z12, z2, z1,z7 they all lost MONEY.


Your experience is called DRAWDOWN. ;-)

Just let it run and have a look some months later. :-)

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: sdplay] #479656
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Really funny, for me they all work great, maybe you are just a unlucky guy.

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: Veratyr] #479781
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Hi Veratyr,
I was looking at your Z12 account in MyFxBook and it looks like you are sitting (as of today) at a gain of ~ +33% after 3 years ... which is ~ 11% per year.
11% per year is AWESOME don't get me wrong, however how do you explain such a huge difference between your results (which I believe are comparable with the results of anybody else) with the ~ 170% per year claimed by Zorro Z12?*
We are talking about another order of magnitude here... and it's hard to believe that depends on some setting or initial capital/leverage.
Have you ever thought about it?
Be well.

* I get results even crazier :-) than ~ 170% (with 1:500 leverage I go up to 250% per year)

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: Lozoteva] #480480
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Yea something doesn't seem right at all with it - 75% DD on June 02 2020. Not looking very appetizing.

Re: Z systems THEY DONT WORK - this is a scam [Re: Veratyr] #482749
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Hi, the account in the first link shows "Gain : -62.45%", what happened?

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