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Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484458
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Thanks @AndrewAMD.

*sigh* So, not only no simple answer, but one must also pry information out of the broker, and trust it as well... frown

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Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484476
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Yes. With IB, leveraged ETFs have special margin requirements that basically compensate their leverage. Some info here: https://ibkr.info/article/1124

Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484477
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Thanks @jcl.

Clarification: It appears from IB's write-up that this/these is/are government/exchange rule/s. And so not IB's sole decision, but all brokers must follow, correct?

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Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484478
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Yes. The brokerage also has the right to employ even stricter rules than the exchange rules.

Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484479
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Thanks @AndrewAMD.

Let's assume for the sake of argument that I'm human. laugh Meaning 2 things: lazy, and (even when not lazy) make mistakes. Since Zorro is not set-and-forget, I regularly monitor. Within that framework, for trading stocks, ETFs, etc. is there a better choice amongst:

- Expend the (on-going) effort to research & set each & every Asset at the correct Margin, expect that Results will match Test, and risk mistakes
- Be lazy and pick a Margin value (1, 2, whatever) and just use it for all Assets, accepting that Results will not match Test, and possibly Trading with Capital less than CR for added safety

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Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484480
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I have a different lazy option: Set the leveraged ETFs to 1:1, and the ordinary ETFs and stocks to 2:1.

Re: Z3 (& others?) with ETFs? [Re: DdlV] #484481
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Thanks @AndrewAMD.

Given that I'll sooner or later accumulate some # of mistakes, how bad will the risks and/or results be with leverageds at 2:1 and/or ordinaries at 1:1?

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