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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #485193
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I believe that 25% is a fair rate, which is prob similar to an Optimal F output.

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@Grant yeah, got similar thinking. which is why I played around those values

but that's late game. I want that snowball

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looks like markets gonna struggle down further

bunch of fake optimism without an actual rebound

US debt records, Russian drama, SPY falling again

but at least that's a movement!

enough of that 1% channel sideways bullshit

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #485205
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Monte Carlo Analysis... Median AR 1210%
Win 202$ MI 22.14$ DD 4.31$ Capital 20.24$
Trades 3018 Win 60.5% Avg +67.1p Bars 114
AR 1312% PF 1.64 SR 9.78 UI 1% R2 0.00

Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #485206
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Monte Carlo Analysis... Median AR 1218%
Win 204$ MI 22.28$ DD 4.31$ Capital 20.24$
Trades 3016 Win 60.5% Avg +67.5p Bars 114
AR 1320% PF 1.65 SR 9.85 UI 1% R2 0.00

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Out of interest, what is strategy performance like when you backtest with WFO?

While some of the metrics you post look good, I do wonder how robust the logic actually is, and whether you are massively overfitting entry / exit criteria just to generate good number on paper.

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man... where do I even start...

WFO ain't some kind of magic bullet

you do realize those numbers are over 9 months period of time, right?

to put it in perspective - January performance shows AR of 64%

yes, I am massively overfitting

that's the whole idea - THE strategy

what you call overfitting - I call strategy development

there are tricks so arcane Mr. Ehler himself would start crying

it's not "just to generate good number on paper" but gradually, over time - filter out good stuff until it starts behaving live

that's all there is - a backtest. somewhat close approximation of what would have happened in past

that is the ONLY weapon you get unless you are into moon phases or insider trading

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I try to understand your thought process, but I don't.

Why would you develop a system, knowing on beforehand that it will clearly over-fit on your in-sample data?
Knowing how your system behaves on out-of-sample data should be key before going live.

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #485213
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because you don't consider that my in-sample data is all the meaningful data there is

my out-of-sample data is tomorrow's failure

what else you want me to test it on?

different asset? generated white noise? Mozart's 40th symphony?

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WFO moves the starting point and tries to find best optional parameters

I run it on full history and don't parameterize strategy apart from stuff that controls position size

(although occasionally I do slice it up and analyze particular week or month to gain insight about most conflicting parts)

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With `EndDate = 20220202;`

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Monte Carlo Analysis... Median AR 1244%
Win 204$ MI 22.29$ DD 4.31$ Capital 20.25$
Trades 3015 Win 60.5% Avg +67.5p Bars 114
AR 1321% PF 1.65 SR 9.85 UI 1% R2 0.00


Without `EndDate = 20220202;`

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Monte Carlo Analysis... Median AR 1081%
Win 202$ MI 21.89$ DD 5.57$ Capital 22.71$
Trades 3030 Win 60.4% Avg +66.5p Bars 115
AR 1157% PF 1.64 SR 9.70 UI 1% R2 0.00


With `StartDate = 20220201`

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Loss -2.51$ MI -18.11$ DD 2.71$ Capital 19.83$
Trades 43 Win 46.5% Avg -58.4p Bars 109
AR -1096% PF 0.44 SR -16.88 UI 100% R2 0.00

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