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Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? #485500
03/18/22 06:25
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Waiting for 3 years, please share any progress.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #485502
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Not cancelled. First comes the memory cache system, then the 64 bit Zorro, then the 64 bit lite-C compiler. We're working on it.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487202
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Hello! Any news for the 64bit versión?

Full, I mean. I don't understand much of the actual 64 bit versión.

Thank you!

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Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487203
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Well, there's already is a 64-bit version, see https://zorro-project.com/manual/en/new.htm

Saying "I don't understand..." isn't a question.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: Grant] #487221
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Saying "I don't understand..." isn't a question.


In fact, it´s not a question. The question was one line up, "Any news for the 64bit versión?"

As I said, a 64bit application. Not the actual workaround.

Thank you!


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Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487222
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OK, here's some news: Zorro is now 64-bit.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: AndrewAMD] #487223
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No, it´s not.

You can´t use it same way as Zorro 32 bit. As a user.

When you have a 32bit/64 bit app, you can do the same with both. Only depends of your OS/CPU. If you download 64bit Ninja Trader works sameway as 32bit Ninja Trader version, no need to install VC++, change scripts, etc...

With 64bit Zorro actual workaround yo can´t use it same way, so it´s not THE 64bit Zorro. Maybe it´s the "64 bit lite-C compiler" what is left?

Will Zorro have a 64bit version similar to actual 32bit?

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487224
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Zorro is not Lite C. Zorro is the executable. It is in 64 bit and 32 bit.

My understanding is that the Lite C compiler will never be ported to 64-bit. This is fine because the Lite C and C++ experience is now near-identical in its current implementation. Plus C++ is a universally supported language.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487226
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My understanding is that the Lite C compiler will never be ported to 64-bit


That´s a pity. I tried some implementations when version 2.50 was released, and tried the 64bit Zorro, but I could not convert my Lite-C scripts to 64 bit. I like some coding learning, but it´s a little too much for me.

It´s difficult enough to develop good strategies. 64bit adaptations take time (don´t have). My 64bit interest was because of the memory limitation of 32bit.

Thank you.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487227
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There are several example C++ scripts. If you can figure out how they work, you can translate your own Lite C scripts without issue. Plus there’s always the forums, the manual, and tech support.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487229
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Ok, I´ll give it again a try.

Thank you

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487233
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Ohhh, now the problem is that Z64 can´t work with R..

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DeepLearn64.cpp compiling..
DeepLearn64 start
R and Deepnet required
Rules: DeepLearn64 2015..2019 (15 cores)
Assets AssetsF
Error: NEURAL_INIT failed (0)
R not yet supported by Z64


Do we know when R will be supported in Z64?

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487234
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Did you also tried the Rtest script?

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: tomaslolo] #487235
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Originally Posted by Grant
Did you also tried the Rtest script?
Disallowed in the r.h header in the first place:
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int Rstart(const char* source,int debug) 
{ 
#ifdef _WIN64
	quit("R not yet supported by Z64");
	return 0;
#endif	
	if(hR) return hR; // R session already running
//......
}
Originally Posted by tomaslolo
Do we know when R will be supported in Z64?
No idea, but 64-bit R is supported by 32-bit Zorro.

Re: Is 64bit zorro plan canceled? [Re: 7th_zorro] #487236
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Ah gotya, haven't tried it myself as I'm still running v 2.44 due to my licence period.

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