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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486468
08/24/22 12:08
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Hello Lapsa I just want to know ONE thing, are you making money if you are not I will stop all of this right now and just live unmotivated and wait for my death LOL

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486482
08/29/22 08:42
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no, I am not making money. cannot recommend trading

but...

for the most part algo is capable of breaking even,
losses have been somewhat irrelevant

algo gets improved

and there's still an enormous potential

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"I'm gonna make fat stacks of money with this" is a wrong mindset. it's quite likely you won't. at least not fast, without failing

"I wonder what if..." is the correct one

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486497
08/30/22 19:22
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Nice thanks for the explanation, I think the same way about trading it's all about trying/falling then trying again, forgive my indiscretion but how much time have you spent researching to reach this stage ??

Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: anissyo] #486498
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is it true that btcusdt is free on Binance ?? absolutely no fees except that 0.01 spread? it should be great news for you as a crypto trader I believe, in the past I come up very quickly with some solid strategies when used on 1-minute charts with 0 spread on eurusd, It should be the same in the BTC pairs if not easier, I will research that very soon, but can you confirm that 0% commission fee is still valid on Binance when trading BTC / stablecoins pairs?

On the website they say it's the case but there is some weird stuff that pushes me to believe that the post is outdated and not yet removed like for example there is another post where they say that makers can make 0.01% on any given trade without any capital requirement when trading all busd futures (it's just unbelievable) because if the comission is negative (meaning I will receive money when making the market) I will just put some orders in the delta neutral way and collect that 0.01% each time, and using max leverage each time, it's just toooooo easy to be true but again can you confirm ?^^

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486501
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Hey Lapsa,

I'm just wondering if you tried to trade with one of the Z strategies?

I can suggest you looking at ETF buy/hold/go-in-cash type of strategies also known as TAA (tactical assets allocation)

One of such strategies in Zorro - Z9: Long-term momentum based sector ETF portfolio rotation.

Another one I have manually tested and use for the last year live (and it works quite well) is called Stoken ACA

Here is my own backtest (made in Python, not Zorro) - https://katlex.com/stoken/ - you can find a link there with in detail strategy description.

Results: 12.5 CAGR, 20% max drawdown for the last 14 years - I failed to find more history since I'm testing on ETFs.
This is trading without leverage.

Also here is an article to learn more: https://alf.katlex.com/blog/why-tactical-asset-allocation

I hope this could at least give you hope that algo trading or quantitative investing could be profitable over a long run.

You only need -
1) realistic goals
2) large enough capital
3) carefully back testes strategy
4) patience and time

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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486505
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how much time have you spent researching to reach this stage ??


hard to say

not enough by the looks

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is it true that btcusdt is free on Binance ??


that's on spot only. I'm on futures

it's more like ~.1% for open+close

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but again can you confirm ?^^


errr.... probably not? did experiment with maker orders, could drive down fees to .04% for open+close

too unreliable

but that's not the free money recipe you suggest

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tried to trade with one of the Z strategies?


nope. somewhat uninterested as it's closed source

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Results: 12.5 CAGR ....
This is trading without leverage.


my backtest shows $100->$3M a ~year
CAGR 222581%

so what...

Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486508
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my backtest shows $100->$3M a ~year
CAGR 222581%

so what...


considering you're saying "no, I am not making money. cannot recommend trading" and "fuck trading" many times - that is just the curve fitting that you're doing.

the main difference with the strategy I mentioned - it is real - my backtest for the last year 100% matches live trading results on real money for the same period.

but sounds like you didn't ask for an advise, and keep following your own way, which is great, so I disappear laugh


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Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486516
08/31/22 16:40
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ah, nice, but even if it's spot only I still think that with the volatility I think there is some potential if it's free especially and if the bid/ask difference is as tight as I remember, 0.01 to 0.02 spread.

By the way, btc/usdt Spot trading means No leverage and No shorting, right?

thanks for the valuable feedback.

Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486517
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Alun, check your private messages bro

Re: Lapsa's very own thread [Re: Lapsa] #486519
09/01/22 06:02
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By the way, btc/usdt Spot trading means No leverage and No shorting, right?


true

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considering you're saying "no, I am not making money. cannot recommend trading" and "fuck trading" many times - that is just the curve fitting that you're doing.

the main difference with the strategy I mentioned - it is real - my backtest for the last year 100% matches live trading results on real money for the same period.


lol

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