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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Machinery_Frank] #64154
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exactly... halo 1 supported ps 2... and that is what 4 years old? honestly, if you gonna play games other than ones like bejeweled, you gonna need a decent computer. just buck up and buy a new gfx card or dont play, its simple, stop whining.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: lostclimate] #64155
11/21/06 17:32
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That why i have said:
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In the case you want to sell the game




a hobby project can have higher requirements in this category.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Damocles] #64156
11/21/06 18:18
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I ment the gameplay, not the fps.

GOod graphics make no good game. Take for example ps3 games. They have the best graphics on the market but not very good scores. And just because good graphics they won´t sell. Well soem people will buy them because of the graphics, but not as many as before the bad video game tests were published.

I would like to buy the awful bad game DarkKingdom made by Sony. At gametrailers the game got a score of 5.X of 10. That is very low. But the girls are so hot in that game so I may buy it.


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: EX Citer] #64157
11/21/06 18:28
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wow, this thread seems so full of controversy, lol, before we were talking arguing about whether or not he needs shaders, now were arguing whether or not certain shader should go were... lol

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: EX Citer] #64158
11/21/06 18:31
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Quote:

I would like to buy the awful bad game DarkKingdom made by Sony. At gametrailers the game got a score of 5.X of 10. That is very low. But the girls are so hot in that game so I may buy it.




Haha . Send me the game when you finished it

But seriously. I wonder why all the coders here every day have to insist that good graphics alone will not sell a game. We all know that. Nobody ever doubted it here. But what is the problem with good graphics? I very seldom see good graphics here.
So it might be some other problem like: "We don't have it so it must be a thing that we do not need." (just like a single that tells you why he never needs a girl-friend and why girls are very bad for the health ).

Did you ever see an artist that whines all day that a good game-idea alone will not sell? Both, game-play and graphics need each other in the today's saturated markets otherwise you will fail unless you create tetris retro with ASCII letters instead of textured models.


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Machinery_Frank] #64159
11/21/06 18:37
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To sum it all up:

I don't need graphics because they look so pretty


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Machinery_Frank] #64160
11/21/06 19:08
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The game will also have fallbacks to even ps 1.3 and vs 1.1, but the full quality you will only get with a better graphics card , cpu and more ram. The game is still very early and we actually not contacted any publisher so it is still free.

By the way: We really don't ask the people here what technology we should use, it is just about showcasing new stuff.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: sebcrea] #64161
11/21/06 20:06
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Yeah, yeah... but I am worried about the gameplay.

@Frank: I am disappointed if I buy a game which I think is good because it has good graphic but it is no fun to play. I mean I think the game is fun because they took care about good graphics, so why they shouldn´t care about good gameplay. But that is one kind of professional marketing, selling trash as gold...

I am less disappointed when I buy a game with bad graphics which is no fun because I don´t expect that much from it and it is usually cheap.

Of course good graphics and good fun are good. But I am not that much interested into shaders... The games I am most interested in have not many shaders, like DarkKindom and MageKnight. At least I didn´t saw them. On the otherside a good bloom shader does a lot. But as you can see in the shader thread they do only problems...
I just know these games have hot good quality chicks with a lot of polygones (and DarkKindom has breast bounce and n*pples! :L ).

Forget what I said about graphics... graphics and shaders rule!!!


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Machinery_Frank] #64162
11/21/06 20:12
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What's the deal with the graphics debate here guys? It doesn't make much sense. It's better to have a solid gameplay and work on the graphics later. A sequel can always try to do better in the graphics area, however when part 1 of a game sucked gameplay-wise people will remember that! If the game looked okey, but had a great gameplay, I'm sure more people would be interested in a better looking sequel...


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just like a single that tells you why he never needs a girl-friend and why girls are very bad for the health




Heheheh, yeah, I know some guys who actually say this. First it's 'I don't think I can get a girl-friend' a year later they seem to totally have given up on even trying and start saying they 'won't need one anyway'. The very bad 'cases' even go as far as saying it's bad for your health indeed! Omg!

Trust me when I say these guys could easily get a girlfriend, if only they would invest some time and effort in it. How can a girl become interested in a guy without ever knowing him ... Anyways, enough off topic for me.


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: PHeMoX] #64163
11/22/06 06:23
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It is interesting to see that some coders here always complain about good graphics, but as an artist there have to be a high quality bar for the graphics.

It is not just putting ugly stuff (art) into a solid gameplay, it is about bring both in line. We wanna give the players an atmospheric game and for me as an artist the focus is always on doing great stuff.

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