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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: sPlKe] #64174
11/23/06 06:48
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ok, but a 5200fx can run doom3 at med specs, i know that because i have one in my desktop pc, programming fallbacks to that level is good, but what everyone here seems to want is something that a machine from 1999 should still be able to play, i mean come on.... if you have a machine that is so low that you need something that old, you should not be on this forum, you should be on newegg looking for some upgrades

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: lostclimate] #64175
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@ Spike it is not so simple, you are talking about WOW which is a MMORPG, where player is in an great universe with other real persons, that doesn't need high end specs because the graphics not focused to be realistic.

In a First Person Shooter in singleplayer the player is alone and there is really a need of realism and atmosphere. So please don't start a comparison between such different game types. More realism needs more power that was it what happened in the past and will happen in the future, by the time our game comes out there will be much more power at home computers, than you need to run the game at high quality.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: Machinery_Frank] #64176
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pixel shader 2 and Doom3 are old technologies




While Doom 3 is old technology, pixel sahder 2 is currently the standard used in most games, shader 3 is only now becoming viable.

Another point, Doom3 didnt use pixel sahder 2, it used opengl version sof pixel sahder 1.1, whihc of course run on GeForce FX cards. Shader 2.0 will run still run on fX cards, but due to bad implementations on the the Nvdia FX cards, it will be too slow to be useful. ATI cards of the same generation, like Radeon 9700, are far superior.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: sPlKe] #64177
11/23/06 15:42
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sorry of posting old posts, but i might add one thing here: depends on style...

WoW, and bruning crusade both use pretty low specs. i can play them perfectly on my 5200FX (4 year old system) so thats not the point. the point is, that playability is a factor that is more important than one might guess. of what use is a good looking game if i cant play it because my system is not the newest. thats why many game still support low end pcs... more people will buy them.

so your staement is not quite correct...




this sums up my point, however, i don't agree with some of you, i do not agree that a person should be forced to buy a high end graphics card for 200+ dollars and then spend money on a $30+ game, this is a no no. Instead, the game should stick with what others can do, and the gameplay is most definately the most important thing in the entire game. Lemme say it like this, the game should be like the original Unreal Tournament, options for everything, this give a huge range of pcs it could run on, for example, you want to have the sphere engine in your game, however, most of your customers can't run it, so what do you do, you make sphere an option, for people with lower pc's make the graphics look about like the original unreal tournament, but for high ent pc's set the maximum polies up, and give it sphere, and normal mapping and bloom, or whatever you want to add to it. My point is, they shouldn't be forced to upgrade their specs severely to play a game, it should be as simple as buy the game, and play it, but this is my personal opinion. i am finished criticizing, so now to say something good about the game

this game is looking better and better, the first pages show some ok graphics, but as you go on, you are getting alot better, thumbs up my friend, very good looking game

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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: mpdeveloper_B] #64178
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@ matt, your proving what he's saying about shader model 2.0, it should be used as the standard, everyone here is just worried that someone with an incredibly old card wont be able too run it.... thats there problem, and they should probably update there card.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: lostclimate] #64179
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but why should you be forced to update your card when the maker of the game should make it compatible to your needs?


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: mpdeveloper_B] #64180
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but why should you be forced to update your card when the maker of the game should make it compatible to your needs?




When we are talking about a Geforce 2 card or even something in the range of the Geforce 5200, then yes, off course the customer should upgrade to a newer card. Come on, most of those kind of cards are like 5 years old or something...

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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: PHeMoX] #64181
11/23/06 18:01
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no no, that's not what range of cards i mean, here in america, a stock pc's specs is this:

AMD Sepron 3100+ (1.80 Ghz, 256 mb l2 cache)
512 MB DDR SDRAM
GeForce 6100 on-board card

it's not a bad pc, with a graphics card upgrade it'd be pretty good, but this is what i mean by going for "stock" pcs, this is what i want my game to be able to run on, for now


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Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: mpdeveloper_B] #64182
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200 MHz CPU,
32 MB RAM,
8 MB graphics Card

that are the minimum requirements for Unreal Tournament so please stay realistic. I already posted the minimum requirements for "Lived" 2000 MHz CPU / Graphics Card with ps 2.0 and vs 2.0 / 512 MB RAM (1024 MB RAM). So thats the deal you will need 5 year old hardware to run it at lowest quality.

Re: "Lived" FPS Game by Alienpac Software(Screens) [Re: sebcrea] #64183
11/23/06 19:19
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i used UT as merely an example, i did not use it to say you need a pc that will run on a 200mhz cpu, i was using it as an example


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