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Re: When you die, then what?
[Re: PHeMoX]
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08/27/06 14:48
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But that maybe simply me not quite understanding this test variant.
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This test variant has been proposed to emphasize( at least to try to..)the difference beetwen a human being and a machine
It is well known that no sofware has been yet capable to pass the Turing test
If you ask a set of questions to an entity behind a screen, sooner or later you will realize wether you are dealing with a human being or a computer
However even though in future a PC will pass the Turing test ,you can not claim that the machine have any consciousness for the reason explained before
Obviously there are also some proves against the existence of soul
If a cat attacks a mouse, the heartbeat of the mouse's mother drammatically increases even though she is in a safety place
It seems strange that a "pure reactive agent" can drive also some functions which apparently have nothing to do with the survival of the animal but which are very close to human emotions
The problem of soul existence is still open , in my opinion
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Re: When you die, then what?
[Re: Alberto]
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08/27/06 16:09
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Chemical reactions can "code" the "manual" or a " Set of rules " but "consciousness" seems to be quite an othe matter
No, consciousness is simply a lot of those chemical reactions all together, because one single thought is not the same as 1 chemical reaction somewhere, it requires a bit more. Why would a chemical reaction, with as result how we feel and react be different from our definition of 'conscious'?
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If a cat attacks a mouse, the heartbeat of the mouse's mother drammatically increases even though she is in a safety place
It seems strange that a "pure reactive agent" can drive also some functions which apparently have nothing to do with the survival of the animal but which are very close to human emotions
There could be dozens of reasons for the mother mouse having a fast heartbeat at that moment, it doesn't need a consciousness for it. When that last devestating tsunami came a lot of animals were already long gone. Did they sense it comming? That would still not mean they must have a soul. It does indicate a sense of consciousness, but I think we don't know much about that yet when it comes to animals,
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