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Re: Who's god's god? (kudos to phemox)
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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07/09/06 11:09
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Time is not a constant. Time exists because of several reasons for instance it changes with an objects speed. So it is possible that time started with an event like the big bang.
The time that you know here from earth is just a little part of the entire being of time. You have to extend your logic to explain time.
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Re: Who's god's god? (kudos to phemox)
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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07/09/06 17:23
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Therefore the exact opposite is true even if the universe lost all heat.. zero entropy. Dont bandy about science you obviously dont understand.
Even if I'm wrong in my use of terminology, which I'm not (and I don't care to explain why), my point still stands. The universe will have reached a 'dead' state.
The third law itself mostly comments on the fact that you can only break even (with a perfectly efficient machine or process). Or to look at it another way, there are no reversible processes.
Either way, nitpicking at my use of one word is hardly productive, although I'm still right, and you're wrong.
You can read this to brush up if you want.
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Or click here to see that you're wrong.
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Time is not a constant. Time exists because of several reasons for instance it changes with an objects speed. So it is possible that time started with an event like the big bang.
But if there was no relative motion (no time), then there was nothing happening...forever. You don't escape the problem.
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By the way, I can't believe you guys are still engaging this uneducated hick in scientific discussion. Doesn't he ever get boring?
But at least quoting rock and roll in a philosophical discussion is a lot more 'enlightened'. You're representing atheism pretty well here, A Russell. Keep it up.
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Re: Who's god's god? (kudos to phemox)
[Re: Machinery_Frank]
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07/10/06 17:32
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This is interesting but there is not enough knowledge at the time to expain this perfectly.
We have enough knowledge to know this: Time has existed forever, in which case we would still have an infinity to go before we ever show up on the scene (we don't exist), or time didn't exist at some point, in which case it will not exist for an eternity (and we're still screwed).
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I personally can imagine that all is an eternal circular flow of elements. Sometimes energy gets compressed and explodes again and all starts again. So time changes for every object in this circulation. There is simply no beginning and no end. Every end is a new beginning.
That's because you're an atheist.
Thermodynamics beats you again.
You can be an atheist, and deny that we were created, but at least admit that you have no reason to believe this. 
But seriously, there was a beginning, and there will be an end, whether natural or unnatural. The logic is pretty simply. But even if the universe has existed forever, why does it even exist at all? Don't bother answering that, because it hasn't existed forever.
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God's god is called Double-God. Double God's name is Double Double God, and so on. It just keeps going on and on like that forever.
Okham's razor says otherwise. No need to hypothesise on multiple God's when one God will do.
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Re: Who's god's god? (kudos to phemox)
[Re: JetpackMonkey]
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07/10/06 19:43
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Last edited by Irish_Farmer; 07/10/06 22:44.
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