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Re: Things evolution can't explain
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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06/22/06 22:55
06/22/06 22:55
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MathewAllen
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The matrix reloaded is on a t.v. behind me...
Riiight. That's like comparing a pie-graph to looney toons. Honestly, theres a slight difference between an ANIMATION and a SIMULATION, and I hope you realize that. Proffesional computer simulations are about as accurate as you can get, provided they have all the variables right.
MORE IMPORTANTLY Darwinian evolution has nothing to do with modern evolution! Who cares that darwin was wrong? It's not his ideas that are taught, apart from his (widely accepted by the scientific community as being) correct ones.
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Re: Things evolution can't explain
[Re: MathewAllen]
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06/22/06 23:10
06/22/06 23:10
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The animation in the matrix is meant to simulate real life. But they got some variables wrong (the 'speed' of time being a big one), that's why it isn't very accurate. The point is, pie charts, or simulations of evolution just put a face on an idea. That doesn't make it more than an idea. Unless you have all the knowledge in the universe, you can't know if the simulation is completely accurate...unless you can test its predictions. Evolution is untestable by its nature. Quote:
Darwinian evolution has nothing to do with modern evolution! Who cares that darwin was wrong?
Tell that to Matt. I was just pointing out all the errors Darwin made. Matt takes this as a general insult to evolution itself, and refuses to admit what scientists have known for a long time (namely that Darwin got the details of evolution wrong).
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Nice cartoon. Except the entire argument against creationism is a strawman. Number one, antibiotics resistance has nothing to do with evolution. It happens, yes, but we've found ancient bacteria that were resistant to penicillin years before the antibiotic was even invented. All the antibiotic did was kill off all the germs that weren't already resistant. That's not evolution, its simple natural selection (loss of genetic data). Furthermore, germs exchange plasmids with each other, and viruses can carry genetic snippets between populations. Both methods also provide resistance, but do nothing to explain where that data came from in the first place.
That cartoon, and evolution in general, is the epitome of ignorance. Thanks to evolutionists, you were taught what amounts to a lie about science, and the creationists are the ones who apparently know more about science in this case. Which theory is really stuck in the dark ages?
The cartoon was pretty funny though.
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Re: Things evolution can't explain
[Re: Irish_Farmer]
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06/23/06 00:06
06/23/06 00:06
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Matt_Aufderheide
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Darwinian evolution has nothing to do with modern evolution!
Well, I dont think this is accurate... this is like saying Newtonian physics have nothing to do with modern physics.
Of course darwin made some mistakes, its hard when you are creating a totally new field of science. And poeple can sit around and point out some errors and therefore expect everyone to assume he was wong about everything? Darwin's ideas have certainly been modified greawtly. he was working 150 years ago, so obviously we have learned some more things since then...but wihtout him we still would be able to make sense of it.
And as I said a million times, if you havent read Darwin, you cant really discuss his ideas intelligently, despite what crap you find on creationist websites.
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Re: Things evolution can't explain
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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06/23/06 06:52
06/23/06 06:52
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Ummm. How about you read up what your raving about, before posting. You just make yourself look stupid.
Actually you make yourself look stupid here...becasue what he writes makes sense and is based on facts.
riiight.
I rest my case. Im out of here. I really thought the people in favour of evolution might be a little more open minded than others Ive talked to. Seems I was wrong.
Cheers and God bless.
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Re: Things evolution can\\\'t explain
[Re: Irish_Farmer]
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06/23/06 09:23
06/23/06 09:23
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Nice cartoon. Except the entire argument against creationism is a strawman. Number one, antibiotics resistance has nothing to do with evolution. It happens, yes, but we\\\'ve found ancient bacteria that were resistant to penicillin years before the antibiotic was even invented. All the antibiotic did was kill off all the germs that weren\\\'t already resistant. That\\\'s not evolution, its simple natural selection (loss of genetic data). Furthermore, germs exchange plasmids with each other, and viruses can carry genetic snippets between populations. Both methods also provide resistance, but do nothing to explain where that data came from in the first place.
pleeease! that\\\'s ridiculous! you can talk with any doctor about that but maybe cretinists shouldn\\\'t search help in modern medicine but in some voodoo priests...
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Re: Things evolution can\\\\\\\'t explain
[Re: Irish_Farmer]
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06/23/06 22:54
06/23/06 22:54
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sorry, my browser has a malfunction which adds the \\\\\\.
i have some pharmacology books of my brother (who is a medic) lying around here but they won\'t be of much help since they are in a different language and i don\'t have the time to translate anything.
just ask any doctor about this topic the next time you have the chance.
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