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Re: Intel and a Brain
[Re: Michael_Schwarz]
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07/13/06 18:16
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Lol, very funny...  I do clean the doo-doo in the lab toilets over here. HAHA! <just joking>  Actually though, I was promoted last year and now am a product engineer and responsible to create programs for large IC testers in the "C" language.  Our production factory in Malaysia depends on me to program good stuff. Anyways, we all gladly accept that our TV's and radios and PC's all are made by a designer, because they have very complex circuits in them, right?  But, in the case of the more hugely complex "Human Brain", we discard any notion of a designer. Why is this? Is this not illogical to do so? Hey listen folks, ---> There HAS to be a designer or designers! Because it is way too complex! 
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Re: Intel and a Brain
[Re: Matt_Aufderheide]
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07/13/06 21:48
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I dont see why a computer cant be conscious
Because we only know consciousness in humans and maybe higher animals. All of which are radically different from computers, which are nothing but elaborate light switches. Unless and until consciousness can be reduced to a physical process that causes it, and this process included in a computer's design, there's no reason to assume that computers will become conscious. Now if you are saying that computers could be made to appear intelligent (i.e. Turing Test) then that's a possibility, but so far the results have been disappointing.
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Re: Intel and a Brain
[Re: capanno]
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07/14/06 08:59
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Dude, AI will NEVER be as advanced as a human brain. We dont even know how it works, so its redicilous that we claim that we are getting close. AI will never be concious. Its an appealing concept for science fiction junkies though.
"We dont even know how it works"
and exactly THAT makes it possible.
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Re: Intel and a Brain
[Re: Joozey]
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07/14/06 12:20
07/14/06 12:20
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The theory is that any complex design needs a designer or designers.
And what this theory gladly denies is the fact that life didn't start as a full grown man or woman ...
So exactly why does this theory make any sense? 
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Re: Intel and a Brain
[Re: PHeMoX]
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07/14/06 15:51
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but the brain is a big pile of gunk. So what?
Because that gunk stuff is very complicated.
If you ever shoot a bullet hole in that "GUNK", for example, then you are probably dead, but if you shoot a bullet hole in your arms "Gunk", then you most likely will live. Thus your brain is more important and complicated than your arm is.
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So exactly why does this theory make any sense?
Because everything of a highly technical design that we know of has creators. Everything does, your stereo's, DVD players, televisions and yes Intel's new processor.
These highly technical things listed above also have no ability to generate offspring and are therefore less complicated, but the more complex human brain was not designed by anything we say?
Com'on guys, you know that is wrong. Admit it?
Shoot me with a bullet hole to see my gunk how complicated and important I'am to ya!!!
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