Yay, that's a real nice edit

omfg, that is disturbing, i personally am a cristian and i am embarressed that they'do something like that, you know its bad whe you can relate it to an al-queada camp, ill rant later gotta go.

I love how the edit makes a mountain out of a holehill. Its a camp...one friggin camp. That isn't fundy christianity, its just insanity.

Uuhm, fundamentalist's christianity IS insanity ... any religious fanatics group is clearly abusing the faith of others for their own purposes, that's not only disturbing, it's also insane. It's not just a camp, if it was, no one would be shocked about it, and I'm definately shocked.

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I consider fundamentalism more along the lines of this: ""Fundamentalist" describes a movement to return to what is considered the defining or founding principles of the religion."

That's not crazy, unless the defining and founding principles of the religion are crazy. In christianity, perhaps the most defining principle might be that Jesus is Savior. Perhaps the idea of that is crazy to some people, but in and of itself, the notion isn't crazy. Its either true or false, though it would be difficult to falsify (you'd have to find Jesus' remains to prove He didn't rise or something like that).

If you can tell me how the fundamentals of christianity compare to this camp, then maybe I'll believe you, but I think at this point you would have to make the case. This movie might make an argument for a general craziness of some christians themselves, but not of christianity. Besides, things like this aren't necessarily indicative of insanity. Many people in the aryian brotherhood probably have no mental illness. Their group is, however, an unfortunate abberation in otherwise normal social behavior. IE, most people don't lack the self esteem that causes them to fall into groups like these. Or where they lack self esteem, they make up for it in morals.

In this case, camps like these are an abberation in otherwise normal religious behavior.

Well put, 'some christians' are not representative for christianity as a whole, but I still tend to disagree with parts of what you've said. Yes, you are right about the definition, however that's more or less a matter of perspective. If the 'fundamentals' of christianity are to control a big mass of people by spreading a religious idea or concept, then yes it can be compared. However I think the basic comparison is more along the lines of general propaganda and indoctrination, instead of some shared religious details. It's crazy nonetheless and based upon religion, abberation or not. It doesn't make religion a bad thing per say, but what they do with religion is disturbing to say the least.

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Terrifying how they worship a photo of Bush!! Talk about false idols!

Irish, I agree with your specific definition of fundamentalism, however the term has a wider meaning in America now, which tends to indicate religious extremism, backwardsness, and self-imposed ignorance.

I think most poeple who identify themselves as "fundamentalists" also tend to fit this second definition.

i always wondered how the defenition of fundamental ended up the same as fanatic..... wierd