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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Yu_Une] #92538
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I have another question reguarding sphere , I downloaded and ran the sphere demo from the website , since I dont have commercial or pro I just ran the precompiled exe , and though it runs a lot faster than I thought it would , it doesnt render properly , in the outdoor demo I cant see the terrain at all , and in the indoor demo I dont see any light , though the rendering of the creature is BEAUTIFULL. My question is this , is there a compatibility list of what video cards Sphere will render properly on ? I am considering upgrading my gamestudio and buying sphere , but I need to know if this is a viable solution for making a Commercial quality game , or if sphere is more of a plugin to play around with which will only work on a select number of video cards ? I understand that sphere was suppossed to be slow on the FX series , but I didnt know there would be rendering issues , so I am wondering how many other cards have ran into similar problems. Any info appreciated. Again , I ran the precompiled exe , so everything should have worked.

Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #92539
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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Why_Do_I_Die] #92540
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as far as I see the video card needs

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pixel shader 2 support



(matt, above)


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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: nipx] #92541
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I have a Nvidia GeForce 7800 GS, and sphere runs well with it.
I think the FX cards problem was due to the cards limited/early support of PS2.


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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Grafton] #92542
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I have an early version , FX 5200 Ultra , though I havnt really had any problems with any other games displaying grafix , though maybe they all have ps1 fallback or something . I really would like using sphere , but I really would like to know on what video cards it doesnt work on , and on which it does , anyone have any type of list ?

Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Grafton] #92543
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Quote:

I think the FX cards problem was due to the cards limited/early support of PS2.




The Nvidia FX 5200 has no ps 2.0 support, only up to 1.1 and 1.4. For a list you could check the Graphic Card Device Info thread, there's no SM2.0 card in that list though.

That would be a really fast way. A nice and cheap SM 2.0 card would be a ATI 9800 for example,

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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: PHeMoX] #92544
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The Nvidia FX 5200 has no ps 2.0 support




That's wrong, all FX cards have support for ps 2.0.

That was a big part of the marketing for the fx cards, however they tended to perform badly under 2.0, so Microsoft and Nvidia had to develop a new shader version called 2.0b, which was optimized for the FX chip.

That thread with card caps is odd because none of the cards show ps 2.0 support, even though many of them have it...that may be from the directX 8 version of A6.


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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #92545
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I have a 5200fx card, can't run sphere faster than 5fps or so.

FX cards weren't that great when they first came out either.
http://www.guru3d.com/article/content/59/


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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: FoxHound] #92546
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Yes SPhere is extremely slow on fx cards, this is a known issue. There is really no way around it either, unless someone were to change all the shaders to compile in ps 1.4 or something.


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Re: [Sphere] Sphere 2 Released [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #92547
01/13/07 21:12
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Well, my dad's Geforce FX 5200 does NOT run any ps/vs 2.0 application or game, nor does it's specs show that it supports vs/ps2.0. I'm totally unsure which Geforce FX 5200 it is, but it's old, that's for sure.

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