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Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: PHeMoX] #99307
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a known Russian spy was eliminated in Britain, he ate sushi which contained Polonium( a radioctive substance). It was enough to make him suffer while his organs failed and endure a painfull death. It is reckoned to do this you have to be a Nobel prize winning scientist.




Nonsense. Anyone with a good knowledge of chemistry and biology can predict how a radioactive substance affects the human body. In fact, radiation poisoning is a well-documented process, since whenever someone died of it--like in the manhattan project--the whole process was studied and recorded by scientists and doctors.

I submit that his death occured along normal lines for anyone poisoned by a radioactive heavy metal. Its not like this is the first time something like that has happened (though i cant recall any one being intentionally murdered that way, but who knows).

you dont need to be a nobel prize winning scientist.. this is a silly comment.


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Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: Matt_Aufderheide] #99308
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You don't need to know anything about Polonium except that it's hazardous when swallowed, however a more interesting question would be; how could a 'normal' person acquire such an highly radioactive substance? The Russian maffia obviously has no problems getting there hands on those kind of materials?

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Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: PHeMoX] #99309
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you can buy stuff like that, as far as i know. it's not that dangerous but we have access to super-economy-packages of chloroform (trichloromethane) at the sfz and nobody would care if we'd take a bit with us. i think it's the same with other scientist laboratories, noone cares if you'd steal a bit here and there...

Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: Joey] #99310
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Just because it's 'just' an alpha emitter doesn't mean it's easy to get. It may be more or less harmless when outside of your body, but everybody knows what will happen when someone ingests it. It's potentially very hazardous. Unless it came straight out of a lab in Russia (;) ) I see no way it could have come from a normal European lab (with it's minimal security, when radioactive stuff is involved, even when just alpha emitters. we've definately learned things since the 70-80s.)

As for other things like chloroform, yes that's probably relatively easy,

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Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: PHeMoX] #99311
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Polonium is used to trigger atomic bombs,
so I think this is handled with a hight security priority.

Funny that this one of the worst substances to make a "hidden" attack,
as it can be detected quite easily with Geiger-Detectors,
so the guy that injected it could e found quite easily (detecting traces on him)

Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: Damocles] #99312
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Well, I'm not sure, but I think that depends on the amount of Polonium 210 used and off course by what means he carried it around. You've got a good point though, it's quite amazing something like this got past several securities without being detected. (Or do they not scan for radioactive substances at the airport lugage handling???)

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Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: PHeMoX] #99313
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i think the most powerful(i dont know about richest america spends money on some pretty dumb $#!t) will be america. at this time we could kick enybodies a$$ we wanted to(plz dont take this afenscivly im just stayting what i see going on) the 50 states would have grown canada probly would have joined america and mabey part of mexico. i think that america will continue to help countries in need and in the end become dominent. oh as for technology we will probly live to the age of 170 yrs at the least do to medical breakthroughs and computers grown to the size of a keyboard with 10X the speed and power of a computer today. and that would just be our smaller computers. dicks would be the size of a floppy dick holding 100 of gigabite tvs would have deatale beter than life and video games having models with 100 of billions of polys all in 1 model overall a LOT will change hovercars are a posability but not as likely as robots walking around doing all sorts of oddjobs with the ability to learn(not much and not very well but still learn)

Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: harleyb12] #99314
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Progress probably will slow down apart from bio engineering and may be computer science
20 years ago you took 18 - 20 hours to fly from Europe to Australia
Nowadays it is about the same

Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: AlbertoT] #99315
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I think people are overestimating the speed of development. also i think several of the larger "powers" in all aspects will start to lose there stability, due to an infrastructure built decades previous to the time, with too many things built on top of eachother, take america for instance, it hit its peak in about the early to mid nineties right? and then it all went down hill and you can watch it slowly lose its stability. Take microsoft, we can sit back and observe bill gates driving his own product into the ground because of one thing.... he has power, and power makes you stupid, it makes you think you can make the choice to do things like release an operating system that no ones gonna like, and still be able to sell it, it makes you feel like god until the company fails.

Re: Most Probable Vision of Future [Re: lostclimate] #99316
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it makes you feel like god until the company fails.




Yeah, but it's not like old Billyboy cares ... he's got what? like 60 billion on his private bankaccount ... He is practically god when it comes to being able to spend money ...

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