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IceX 2.0 Release Version #196563
04/20/06 17:18
04/20/06 17:18
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IceX 2.0 Release Version

(Deutsch weiter unten)

IceX2 is out now. Check the IceX2 website at www.stonehill-online.de.

Here are the informations copied from the website:
1.) Features
- Edit in Realtime. What you see is what you get
- Tile based terrain system with seemless LOD
- Precalculculated shadows with colored gouraud shading and cast-shadows
- WMP-Levelexport for all 3DGS editions
- Perlin Noise terrain generator and heightmap import/export
- Multiple entity editing
- A6 physicsengine for all entities
- There's a watershader with realtime reflections (only with shaderversion 2.0 and above)
- Deform and Painting the terrain
- Multitexturing on terrains which works even with GeForce2
- Create road with a few clicks with the roadgenerator
- Customize the environment. Fog, view distance, skycube etc...

2.) Compatibility and Requirements:
- IceX 2.0 needs a graphics card not older than a GeForce2 (for fixed functions pipeline effects)
- For exporting levels you need at least 3DGS A6.31
- Standard and Extra edition don't have materialeffects (no multitexturing). With this edition the terrains will have less quality after exporting.
- A pixelshader 2.0 card is required for using the watershader. If you want to export water you must own 3DGS professional edition
- There's also the 3DGS professional edition required if you want to use the physicsengine after levelexport

IceX 2.0 Editor is avaiable at www.stonehill-online.de and costs 12,95 EUR (~15,50 USD)

PS: The manual it not yet avaiable. It's avaiable the next 4-5 days.
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IceX2 ist endlich fertig. Alle Einzelheiten auf www.stonehill-online.de

Hier die Informationen von der Website kopiert:
1.) Features:
- In Echtzeit editieren. What you see is what you get
- Teilstück-basiertes Terrain mit nahtlosem LOD-System
- Vorberechnete Schatten mit farbigem Gouroud Shading und Schlagschatten.
- WMP-Levelexport für alle 3DGS-Editionen
- Perlin Noise Terrain Generator und Heightmap Import/Export
- Multiples Editieren von Entities
- Es kann die A6-Physikengine auf alle Entities angewendet werden
- Es liegt ein Wassershader mit Echtzeitspiegelung bei (erst ab Shaderversion 2.0)
- Mit den Terrainpinseln kann das Terrain verformt und bemalt werden
- Multitexturing auf dem Terrain das aber einer GeForce2 Karte funktioniert
- Mit dem Roadgenerator können automatisch Wege angelegt werden
- Umwelteffekte wie Nebel, Sichtweite, Skycube, etc... einstellbar

2.) Kompatibilität und Anforderungen:
- IceX 2.0 benötigt eine Grafikkarte die nicht älter wie eine GeForce2 ist (wegen Fixed Functions Pipeline Effekten)
- Um exportierte Levels nutzen zu können wird mindestens eine 3DGS A6.31 Version vorrausgesetzt
- Die Standard und Extra Editionen unterstützen kein Multitexturing. Deshalb haben die Terrains nach dem exportieren in diesen Editionen eine schlechtere Qualität
- Um den mitgelieferten Wassershader nutzen zu können braucht es eine Grafikkarte mit Pixelshader 2.0. Und für den Levelexport die 3DGS Professional Edition
- Nach dem Levelexport funktioniert die Physikengine ebenfalls nur mit 3DGS Professional Edition

IceX 2.0 Editor ist verfügbar auf www.stonehill-online.de und kostet 12,95 EUR

PS: Das Handbuch ist noch nicht verfügbar. Es kommt erst die nächsten 4-5 Tage.

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Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: oliver2s] #196613
04/23/06 14:23
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I hope you don't mind all these questions oliver!

Would it be possible to have different scaling settings for each of the 4 textures? It'd be nice to have a larger scale texture on grass for example, but a smaller scale on maybe pebbles or stones. Or is this a limit of multi-texture blending?

Another nice feature would be a rotate camera speed, in addition to the camera speed slider.

Last edited by Jetpack_Monkey; 04/23/06 14:42.
Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: JetpackMonkey] #196614
04/23/06 14:59
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I couldn't figure out how to get 4 different scalingfactors for each texture. But I try to look into this again.

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: oliver2s] #196615
04/23/06 15:14
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Hey oliver2s. This is looking good. On the issue of different scaling factors I have thought. I posted this idea a while ago.

http://www.coniserver.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB2&Number=553266

Maybe if you create textures that have 4 'quadrants' with each being a smaller scaled texture and then you can specify texture AND quadrant to use on texture -in other words the texture is 512x512 and you tell shader to use the upper left 128x128 block for pebbles but the whole texture for another area?

You can see a texture here where I mixed 4 different textures. Could have as easily made much smaller scale in one area.

http://stormvisions.com/3DGS/multitexttest1.jpg

Hope that makes sense.


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Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: oliver2s] #196616
04/23/06 19:00
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Oliver2s, I bought IceX yesterday. Very nice job!

If creating a manual is going to take a lot of time and effort, you should consider creating a video walkthrough of the software, perhaps building your demo island level from scratch. Even without narration it would give us a valuable insight into how to use the software and will require a lot less work on your part!

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: IslandDreamer] #196617
04/25/06 13:58
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Oliver,

Some more suggestions for Icex 2.0:

1. Brush size keyboard shortcuts --as in photoshop, increase and decrease brush size with ] and [ keys. Maybe SHIFT+[ and SHIFT+] to change the height..

2. Rotate camera around a point: so you wouldn't have to walk and turn and walk and turn and rotate etc. Like if you press SPACE and move the mouse, you'd rotate around the center of the view instead of walk through.

3. Import and export heightmap images for terrain. I think this is very important, especially if you are converting previous HMP heightmaps to .icx versions.

4. Import MDL geometry into IceX so user can work with terrains with overhangs and concave surfaces. Geometry could share the same xy proportions as a standard icx terrain. This would take special advantage of the benefits of using MDL for terrains instead of HMP, not to mention being very cool and useful.

5. Opacity slider in paint window.

6. Brush size slider range. I've noticed that with the standard terrain size, it's sort of impractical (for me) to use brush sizes over 5 in radius. So I go from 1-5, usually, but the slider will go WAY up to 100. I recommend making the brush range somehow wider, so there is more variety while working up close than just 1-5.


best wishes
jpm

Last edited by Jetpack_Monkey; 04/25/06 17:14.
Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: JetpackMonkey] #196618
04/25/06 17:27
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3. -> This is already possible. Go to heightmap generator -> Data

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: oliver2s] #196619
04/25/06 22:26
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another idea is to allow compatibility with sphere so commercial users can have fresnel water and nice shadows

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: Matt_Coles] #196620
04/26/06 01:44
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Yes , I would buy is if there is full compatibily with comm edition, including one P object per frame.

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: Mondivirtuali] #196621
04/26/06 20:23
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"one P object per frame"?

Re: IceX 2.0 Release Version [Re: Pappenheimer] #196622
04/27/06 06:10
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i got the program today and i really really love it. it makes so much fun to do landscape with it

but one question. when i export the level (as hmp or mdl), how can i include i in a existing level?

i tried to copy and paste the terrain and models on it to another level, but only the models worked. then i saw the name that it was like "terrain-0_1" and so on, so i removed the "-" sign and then i could copy everything.

but when i compile the level and run it, the terrains are gone. is it because of the LOD or what? is there any easier way to do that?

also i was wondering, can the models on the terrain have shadows too again like in IceX1?


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