I dont really underestimate the likelihood of reactions.. but SOOO many circumstances have to be right in order for even one natural reaction to take place.

So.. what you are saying is that.. (starting from a universe of incoherent but local basic atoms) reaction after reaction after reaction.. occured.. eacho happening to have occured in the right place for a reaction to form galactic clouds.. which have thousands of coordinated reactions.. all happening in the exact right place tat they need to.. to react and cluster and form cores.. then the atomic material local to those cores happens to be in the right place to parent off millions of starts.. stars that share about 10-20 common patterns and types.. suns.. whos gravitation then reacts to atoms local to them and form protoplanets,..

While I do agree that.. at a certain point the reactions become cause and effect. Have a look around..

Isn't this all too perfect.. too well functioning as a mechanism.. ecosystem.
You don't think that even the atomic reaction that triggered all these reactions was the least bit deliberate or calculated?

Design implies calculation.. which is simply applying the rules of the universe that are already there.. and using those rules to determine what will most likely result. That's what our higher science is, in fact. That's how we didn't blow ourselves up when we invented/discovered atomic power.


So.. you don't think someone might've imagined.. concepted.. and then experimented to calculate how they could make.. thermonuclear reactive stars.. spiral galaxies.. planets teaming with life in ecosystems that work together? Even the occasional destruction to keep it all going and struggling for equilibrium (which is what all things in nature supposedly do)


It just.. happened to happen the right way.. and amount to a perfectly sensible.. functioning.. universe.. by chance after chance after chance (it would have taken multiple.. one extreme chance after another to arrive at even the parental complexities.. IE..yes planets are the product of gravitational ballets form stars.. and stars the result of stellar clouds that form by influence of galactic cores.. but when you get to the parent of the chain of cause and effect.. thats when it takes extreme.. extreme chance for multiple cores of a limited variety of type to have formed .. by chance. And if by chance, then there would be infinitely more possibilities than there are in this universe)

It (the universe) just seems to be.. to be too perfect.. too mechanical.. too functioning and stable to have been random, accidental, by chance.. and be what it is today. At best chances, coalescenet atomic reactions would have made stars of billions of kinds. No two stars would look alike. No two planets would be of the same configuration.. There would be too far infinite diversity.. and we know that that doesn't apply to at least the section of universe that we can see and detect.

It very well might not apply to the rest of it, but one little block of cheesecake is a pretty good indication of the general idea of what the rests of the pan consists of . If there were such chance, there'd be far too infinite possibilities for patterns and commonalities to be observed. If there were not observable and measurable patterns, there'd be no math and no science by which to measure or predict them.

But.. as we know.. there are patterns. There are cycles. All things have something that starts them.. some form of deliberaton between them to keep it on course.. and an end.

Atoms dont naturally get forced at random to make different atoms by fusion. Not unless they are forced to deliberately. That's because in nature, outside of life forms.. and even they, once born, are on a cycle of expiration.

They naturally degrade into lesser atoms, but this universe had to have begun from simple and grown complex.. otherwise, there would have been a big half-life in which some supermassive atom reached halflives and broke off into other, lesser ones.

The observed expansion that is still going on.. is proof contrary to that.

The only way atoms fuse that dont react that way upon introduction.. is if deliberate nuclear processes are inflicted on them.. and only an intelligence who wants said un natural fusions to occur can make it so.

Other wise.. in nature.. energy expends.. atoms diffuse and divide when their structures cant support it.. they form and combine with other atoms when they have to for stability, but even that severely limits the possibility of chance offsiring from covalent reactions.

They don't mash together on their own, the likes of which it wouldve taken to create nany of the elements we know exist on or off this earth. Deliberation had to be there.. whether it played a major role or not.

Someone knew what they wrought, and we are at the very beggining of our journey to understand their method.. even though it's all there in unedited form for us to see in entirity, read and know.

I don't mean the bibles, korans, psalm books, or torahs in our studies.. I mean the universe across which the real, uninterpretable, undisputable, uncorruptable word of "God" (oops!) is written.