my problem seems to be that when i use c_trace it is tracing from below my character no matter what direction i tell it. at this point i have no weapon scripts actually in the game, i took out the base ones while i worked on things and i could add them back.

sorry im a total newb at this, heh, i wasnt suppose to be the programmer on the team but ours decided to not show up and not help us, so someone had to do it =\