i fear that this is becoming a does-he-exist-or-not-thread. that was not my intention. discussions about a "scientific" or historical" proof are leading into nowhere, since we can't proove it or proove it wrong, it's a thing of belief, and solely of belief. and, honestly, i don't feel the urge to proof christ's or god's existence, either you believe it, or not. for those who believe, i wanted to know if their faith is jointed to the need of having a (noncorporal?) god image, if their faith requires the idea a living mentor, caretaker, mastermind, or if jesus' living example of how a (hu)man could be would suffice but, as i see it, this question is already taken as an attack on christianity, too bad.