a:God requires faith to exist (major premise)
actually false premise. God requires nothing from us.
You know what I mean.. Everytime I meet a christian and ask him why god doesn't show up, the argument is always the same. He wants us to be free whether to believe in him or not. So without faith, you can't really tell if he exists or not just by logic alone.. He has even spread fake fossils around to fool people and question their faith that tricky bastard :P (my apologies for the blasphemy)
b:Int. Design proves a God (minor premise)
quoting Christians who use the word "proves" over-zealously. "supports His existence" would probably be better.
and then you say that by observing nature you get indisputable evidence that there's a designer. So, that's what I'm saying, it's a pretty good argument despite Irish's disapproval.. But other than defending Douglas's joke, i don't mean to convert anyone in this topic or extend this any further.. I almost didn't want to write this post to begin with..
But let's make up for all the boring back-n-forth with more religion jokes..
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The Pope is visiting a town and all the residents are lining the street, hoping for a blessing. The Mayor is sure the Pope will stop and talk to him, but is surprised when the Pope ignores him completely and whispers a few words to a filthy old tramp standing on the other side of the road. 'Of course!' thinks the Mayor. 'The Pope cares more for the poor and homeless, not the rich like me!' With this he dashes over to the tramp, buys his clothes, gets into them, then runs to the end of the street and lines up again. Sure enough the Pope sees the Mayor and walks over to talk to him.
'Hey, stinky,' whispers the Pope. 'I thought I told you to get lost.'
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Saul is working in his store when he hears a booming voice from above: 'Saul, sell your business.' He ignores it. It goes on for days. 'Saul, sell your business for $3 million.' After weeks of this, he relents, sells his store. The voice says, 'Saul, go to Las Vegas.' He asks why. 'Saul, take the $3 million to Las Vegas.' He obeys, goes to a casino. Voice says, 'Saul, go to the blackjack table and put it all down on one hand.' He hesitates but knows he must. He's dealt an eighteen; the dealer has a six showing. 'Saul take a card.' 'What? The dealer has -' 'Take a card!' He tells the dealer to hit him. Saul gets an ace. Nineteen. He breathes easily. 'Saul, take another card.' 'What?' 'TAKE ANOTHER CARD!' He asks for another card. It's another ace. He has twenty. 'Saul, take another card,' the voice commands. 'I have twenty!' Saul shouts. 'TAKE ANOTHER CARD!!' booms the voice. 'Hit me,' Saul says. He gets another ace. Twenty-one. The booming voice goes: 'UN-FUCKING-BELIEVABLE!'
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