and what caused it to fall? what caused the tree to fall down?

what caused the big bang? if you think you know, what caused the cause of the big bang? this chain goes back infinitely far unless something exists outside of causality to make it happen without requiring something to cause its own existence.

there's no reason that can't be God. either way it's something beyond our current comprehension, even if it is a superset of physical laws we haven't come across.

the "black and white" of heaven and hell has not been disproven, Tiles, we already mentioned that since the requirements are black and white, the destinations can easily be black and white. you either accept Jesus, or you don't, as far as Christianity is concerned.

it takes a tremendous amount of faith in the nonexistence of Hell that one would refuse to address the possibility of everlasting suffering.

julz