@julz: my god, what a nonsense. you aren't denying that jesus is god's son, but to disprove me, you say all people are god's creation, and jesus was made as god's mirror-like reflection so he is technically his son and not his son at the same time O.o and what does it have to do with his statement, if he says he's "his son", why do you need him to say, "i'm not god"?
the statement the he is god's son is right at the very beginning, f.i. mark 1,1 and matthew 1,1.
if jesus was god, so you are technically saying that god himself was crucified in golgatha? wow, that's crude. so nitzsche was right after all: god is dead, and he died because his mercy for us (agnus dei, qui tollis peccata mundi).
@ quadraxas: thanks, very interesting, well-thought and informative post. it's nice to have some insights on islam beyond that television horror show we get every day.
@ dooley who wrote after me: i really like your post. instead of making just plain words, you prove your point with examples and excerpts. i like it.
1 post from me just to chime in:
broozar you missed the point. In our religion, and according to the bible God IS everything, God created everything. It is a bit hard to explain other than saying that everything is made up of God. When he created, he created using himself, he spoke it into existance. For instance John 1:1 - "In the beginning was the Word (God's word), and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." in other words this is saying that God spoke, his word was him and he was his word, therefore God and his word(creations and laws) are one. John also says in 1:2 that "He was with God in the beginning." "he" refers to Jesus, whom is his son but also God. It is hard to explain to a non-christian simply because you would have to read the words that Jesus spoke as well as the Gospels themselves to fully understand. Hopefully this will help you understand the belief:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrinityThe belief is that God is God the father(creator), God the son (Jesus Christ) and God the holy spirit (comforter/helper). They are all one person and yet three...like I said maybe the link will help, but you have to understand one thing, in our faith God is not bound by physical constraints, the world in which he exists is spiritual, so we'll never know 100% about God.
