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you can say "wrong" without an explanation, but i'm right.


Wrong

grin

Honestly, i've lost the track now. Too much open points were we disagree ...

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but by saying something happened without a cause (ie: the Big Bang starting without something before it) you must concede that the Big Bang acted outside the bounds of Causality. so no, i'm not wrong.


What about the idea that the Big Bang is both, the first cause, and the first causing? I know, it is as hard to follow as the thought of infinity. It must start and end somewhere says our brain ...

Causality is bound to time, means there is a before, there is an after. But Big Bang started time. Means there is no time before, and so no causality neither.

Right? Wrong? We cannot say it. We both cannot say it. We've discussend us into a corner here.

Fact is it was science that even discovered the whole story. It was science that found the facts. When it goes about faith we would still believe into the earth is made in seven days ...

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i'm saying there's no reason a God couldn't have been the cause of the Big Bang.


But!

And that point is what is the important one, which you simply refuse to understand, What you don't want to understand because it is against your faith,

To describe it that way would mean there is a god.

But there is none. There is NO god. There is no unicorn. There is no fairy. There is no murder, no murdered. There is NO GOD.

And before we start that useless discussion again, SHOW ME A PROOF FOR YOUR IMAGINARY PINK ELEPHA.. err GOD, and then let's discuss again.

It's called faith, not knowledge wink

Last edited by Tiles; 12/19/08 09:08.

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