This is an interesting thread, and I've tried to read the majority of the posts here over the last week, but it seems like most of them go back and forth between the proof or no proof thing. There is no proof either way, so it seems that most of the posts are rhetorical with the expected result simply being another reply about proof, or the lack of.

In the face of a lack of ability to ever prove anything, wouldn't be it more beneficial to argue the logic of a particular point of view? We have the ability to think logically, I'd think that would make a much more interesting conversation/debate. Forget for a minute what's written in a book, or what someone has said, but from our total life experience what does logic dictate.

Sorry to jump into the middle of things, but after taking the time to read most of this I thought it might be alright to drop in a post...