@Stromausfall
Tried in all the places
project folder
debug/release folder
(my) gsdefaults folder

but they load in my original c# project
so i know i' just need to look a little closer
at the problem.
No worries, will definately solve this when i get time
to concentrate

OK- fine now
should be in debug folder, but settings were to release folder
(knew it was something simple).