since the thread was splitted:

Thanks to games like grunz anyone of us releasing another indie game wont be able to charge what its worth, but will have to pay a price for the tag "indie" and all the other grunz games, that we meassure and rate differently and that we dont criticize correct, honest and fair.

the rest is in the useless "bash grunz" thread created to get rid of the uncomfortable truth

have a nice one