It is very interesting how the community discuss finish projects. As long as developers are on the same stage as the majority of the com members... everything is okay.
We discuss shit work in the way of "do a little bit that and then donīt forget this". But as soon as one go over this stage, like finish a project / get a deal... there starts a witch hunting. This could be the reason why guys like oliver2s simply delete their showcases or others like fogman just donīt make some of their commercial work public. Donīt bother. I stoped playing grunts after 2 Minutes, because I donīt like the style... but I donīt know why to fuck spike in this crude way. No, please donīt get me wrong, I still have no identification with spiderman-gothic-cementery boys... it is just interesing how we talk with eachother.