On the Zorro site you find a forum :
Zorro site
And their forum is a sub part of 3DGS forum, that's very unprofessionnal and just proove they don't have money to make a dedicaced forum.

On Zorro site you can read : Take money form rich and give it to poor ? let me laught ... trading is what make the world so bad on these days.

If it was right Conitec, should do it for free and give Zorro for free if their goal was to save poor pople !

If you could take so much money, Conitect would use it and would hire developpers to make some big 3D game studio ....
or they would just concentrate on Zorro.


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But i understand without money and one guy having to manage all that ... by beeing on 3 domains :
-Galep device programmer
-3DGS
-Zorro
Without concentrating on some domain like 3DGS mainly and strongly , it could fail ?

Conitec just trying to adapt to survive , 3DGS is no more able to compete with other 3D engines[/color] (Shiva 3D, Unity 3D, Esenthel, LeadWerks 3 etc .... )

Past years, you found only some 3D engines, now you find a lot , even free advanced, and now lot better, lot more complete and some very advanced also : UT3 SDK, Crysis, Unity 4, Esenthel, free Ogre 3D, LeadWerks, Shiva 3D, C4 engine etc ...

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For new 3DGS IDE ,and MOBILE ...
You have strong prooven engines for mobile with optimized 3D features and some very cheap, well ... we don't need to wait 3DGS for that.

If you are interested to keep your customers that's what you make usually, some screenshot of what is going or you show nothing when you have nothing going on ?
Nothing about wed or mobile !

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It's like Vegetation tool , remaining on Planned features from more than two years now, and it's blocked since on 50%.
It's useless ... only to make some people dream ...
It's features based on the hope that some user will make them, like it has been for lot of little features...
(shade C, Physix cloth etc ... )

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WE ARE ON THE FOG ....

Conitec should be lot lot more transparent and show what is really in the works (screenshots , videos) etc ...and just say what is planned in the next months also.
And really make shorter the long Forecast page , and put only what is really working on !

On some other strong 3D engines (Esenthel, Leadwerks 3, Unity 4etc ...) you can see what is done (screenshots, videos etc ...)
There is no visibilty from 2012 on real things, , no vide, no screenshot, only little updates.

For my part i like 3DGS, but i just see it sinking , even more with Zorro now !
Just look at that to see where 3D artists and game makers are going :
games Gallery examples

Today you need 3D artists to come to your engine to make it popular and prooves that it can do it.

Unity , LeadWeks 3D, UT3 etc ... for example have understood it and propose some visual programming modules for pure 3D artists that can even not program anything.

Some game made entirely on a visual scripting tool with Unity ( PlayMaker for 3D artists ):
Alien Breed remake
And it looks and works lot better than lof of 3DGS Showcase games.

I don't say you can't do good games with 3DGS :
SuperCan, Battle For Forgol, Maniac Mansion etc ...
Sometimes it can ask you lot lot more work , and it could lack features otehrs have (NavMesh etc ...)

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Just one simple example : Select create a cloth than change easily the properties under the great Inspector View, is so easy, so fun, so fast to adjust things ... this i can not do it under 3DGS caus it don't have such Inspector window for objects !!


It's a choice perhaps, for programmers like 3DGS, Dark Basic Pro etc ... or for 3D artists also

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If strategy of Conitec will be : new WED interface, some beginning of mobile for A9 , in that case i'll pass and keep A8

I just hope Conitec will make the right decisions, and avoid to let down people on the fog about what is in the making.

They done it during two years without any updates in the past, and today that feels teh same strategy :
-Nothing precise
-Just Wed, Mobile annoucements without any screenshot or video ?
-little 3D update functions
In some other 3D engines teh upadets are VERY BIG and complicated like : Mac support,mobile, new Rendering shader techniques, new terrain system, navmesh system etc , visual programming etc ...
From 2012, no big update, so much little programming functions ... i think the life is easy like that for them







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People don't have to take bad my arguments, i'm not fan on any engine, i use another two for other purposes and features, and it's just some customer feeling from A6 days

And perhaps lot more 3D artist than programmer, so needing lot more and better tools.

So perhaps all my talking is not very appropriate for 3DGS ?
And 3DGS , have a great community members , the forums help, Acknex magazine , documentation ... all that is such a big positive point.
I hope Conitec will continue, even by letting people on the fog (and easy annoucements), and i hope they will improve the tools also, something more easy, fast to use etc ...

Only future will tell ...

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And i found i'll buy some day Unity 4 Pro, it can be hight price, but not so hight, just some Apple computer price at final like another indie said to me.
And when you see the big team behind, the incredible amount of features of the editor, all the plugins , the easy script and panel templates, the open system ... you pay such price for an engine near AAA ones

I feel i'll have to leave 3DGS and turn the page, and use only up to date engines, even if i used it from old good A6 days.

Some other 3D engines, when you are in front of them, you see directly you need 3D models and textures, the tools are there just waiting for your 3D assets.
Like some complete 3D terrain editor, it just waits your textures, your houses, trees, characters etc ... that's the difference between programmer engines oriented, and mixed ones oriented to 3D artists !

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For now i use it for a retro indie game, and i'm happy with WED caus i don't use terrain for that game.

Who knows if 3DGS could give us a surprise some day ?
That's a year from 2012 (and more) i say we could be surprised ...

And critics, even bad , even on the real life , just awaken you up or make you progress, or realize some things .....