It kind of is a shame. I'm really sorry, I probably should have been paying more attention to it than I was. But with something like 5 managers, and 3 unmotivated developers, I didn't have too much motivation myself. (My eyes were bigger than my stomach too, I'm afraid I didn't have as much time to offer as I would have liked too). But nonetheless, thanks for trying, and I hope maybe we can work together on something more successful in the future.