-->..Except we know the universe had a beginning. God doesn't have a beginning, so there's no room for a creator....

you are making it pretty easy for yourself by dropping relevant things or narrowing shemes to your needs.
and i think this is exactly the reason science will never take this arguments serious.


for someone who believes that much into interpretations from none proofable biblical texts you demand on the other hand pretty solid scientific answers.
and if one brick is missing the whole concept doesnt get accepted while in the same time the whole religious or biblical/creationists set up can have holes and missing answers as it wishes but gets accepted.

measuring with two different ways is not honest enough for scienceso either you demand the same consequence from religion as from science or you grant science the same room for vaque interpretations as religion has.

now you will of course say "well, science is not religion and religion is not science!"
i agree, so stop pretending it is by setting different rules.

hope you dont take this personal. because its not ment that way. I think its ok to be religious i just dont like the idea that one HAS to eliminate or replace the other.

cheers